Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

Well, considering I'm not an atheist, that would make this a "Christians vs Muslims vs Athiests vs Agnostics" *whew* ;)

Riots aren't always a religious or location thing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_riots

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_riots

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

I never said they were, I'm just saying that in comparing the majority of Chrisitans and the majority of Muslims Muslims tend to be a bit more violent. It is nothing like the violence that the terrorists groups on both sides show, but it is still violent.

First off I can't believe you are saying that Hitler was not a christian.
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
The reason the "higher ups" were looking for the Arc of the Covenant was to link the German's back to their Christian past.

They are peaceable because they get their way... Gay marriage is illegal, abortion is frowned upon, and there can be little claim to a seperation of church and state in the Southern United States. George Bush even claims that God wanted him to be president, if you really wanted to argue that the war in Iraq was based on religious reasons you would definitly have a point.

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

He wasn't a real Chrisitan though. Yes you can say you are a Chrisitan but you arn't really if you kill millions of people. Jesus Christ himself, the model for Chrisitanity, said to turn the other cheek, and to treat others as you want to be treated. If you don't always follow them then you are still fine because you are only human, but if directly go against them then you are not a real Christian.

So you are saying if you don't get your way it is ok to kill people? I like that.

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

You can't go around picking the most peaceful people and calling the Chrisitans. I can say the Bin Laden is not a Muslim because he doesn't go by the peacefulness of the Koran.

"Of those who answered the call of Allah and the messenger, even after being wounded, those who do right and refrain from wrong have a great reward."

"Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors."

no I will repeat what everyone else is saying, all religions are dangerous because they are basically cults.

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

Exactly... Honestly, I didn't think you'd look very far in your own writings, so I wanted to test you to confirm my theory.

Now we are going to 'who started it first'? Sure, we can't expect the whole population to be mature and forgive eachother, but you're supporting this? :vikki:

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

How far do you have to look? All I was indicating was that in this particular scenario both sides arn't willing to forgive, so the feud continues.


No, I am not supporting it. I've always advocated relgious tolerance. One of my friends growing up when I was little was a Muslim and he is still our neighbor. I live in one of the largest concentrations of Muslims and Arabs outside of the middle-east, and I can hear the Muslim call to prayer every day. Within a 2 mile radius from my house there are atleast three mosques that I can think of. I've probaly had more contact with Arabs and Muslims then anyone besides a few on these forums. And I have never, ever, ever had a sinlge problem with any of this, and I have infact been friends with many of them.

I am merely pointing out the fact that neither side is ready to forgive and forget because when one sides does something the other side gets into a huffy about it. The only difference being in the way they react.

I'll make sure to go tell that to my Chrisitan friend who just went over the summer to Nicaruga to help build a school. Or maybe I should tell it to my school's campus minister who organizes school field trips to a thing called Focus:Hope where we helped package up food bundles to be sent off to the needy of the city of Detroit. Or maybe I should tell that to the hundreds of my classmates who went to grade schools in the area to help autistic children. Or maybe I should tell that to the thosands of religous charities which funnel hundreds of thosands of dollars to people around the world who need it. Or maybe I should tell all of this to Mother Teresa or Ghandi.

Until you have done these things, you have no right to be so incredibly disresepctful to religous people around the world. The good, kind, religous majority(all religons, Chrisitan, Muslim, Buddist, Hindu) has done more for this world then any single organization could possibly ever hope to accomplsih.

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

Don't know about you or anyone else, but I tend to *try* and find the source of problems, indstead of jumping to conclusions and taking sides.


You are supporting it, and you're supporting it by saying it's ok to strike back at the muslims for starting it.

Well, if you've already acknowledged that both sides aren't ready to forgive and forget, then you should have probably realized that this whole christians vs. muslims thing is stupid.

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

so why is it that hitler killed high ranking christian leaders??? why did he kill so many chrisitians then?
if you look at history you will see you are false.

Re: Pope offendes muslims
 

Because they were in his way, similar to how bin laden killed american muslims on 9/11, they had swayed away from his belief so didn't care about killing them.

Well its ironic how your friends, mother teresa and ghandi helped countries enslaved by western imperialism and made poor because of it. The reason why these lands were captured, according to the White Man's Burden was to spread their greatness and their religion. They are solving problems that christianity caused them. As for helping autistic children and the poor, i hope you understand that the guy on television talking about giving $1 a day to his charity for Christian Children's Fund is not giving the poor the full $1 back, this is their JOB they need some of the money back so they can live. They are the same as you and me except they are deceiving you into believing you that they are a better person and doing it by volunteering, just as you are trying to deceive us the Christians are more charitable than any other person on this planet.