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Old September 20th, 2006   #121
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It's true that not all muslims are violent, but why aren't we hearing outrage from the moderates over what the radicals are saying?
We do, but what is funner for a news show? A calm manifestation or a riot? Which one will be more popular for the 6 O'clock show?

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I don't believe I've ever heard a Muslim Leader (National or Religious) ever "self-criticise" Islam, why should the Pope be expected to do the same when he doesnt need to?
What religious leader would criticise his own religion? Criticizing the actions carried out by the followers is something else altogether. As -DarthMaul- mentioned, Grand Imam Tantawy of the Al-Azhar Mosque speaks out against terror. And he is by many considered one of the most important figureheads of contemporary Sunni Islam.
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It's true that not all muslims are violent, but why aren't we hearing outrage from the moderates over what the radicals are saying?
Because it's not in the news? It's not like journalists go into moderate muslim's houses to ask them what they think about radical muslim's reactions to what the pope said.

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But those people are losing ground in Europe. The radical churches are far more successful than their docile competitors. The radical mosques flourish while the moderate ones die from lack of followers.
Do you live in Europe? No?
Well you don't know what you're talking about. You have no idea of the political climate in Europe unless you're there.
Another pointless post badmouthing Europe, though you don't know what you're talking about.
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I want to visit Europe myself, and go around to visit mosques and see all this Extremism some people speak of, I dont have any idea whats going on over there, but I would like to go in ther emyself and see what happens/what they say..

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I don't believe I've ever heard a Muslim Leader (National or Religious) ever "self-criticise" Islam, why should the Pope be expected to do the same when he doesnt need to?
I believe you are right. I think they would risk getting murdered by fellow muslims if they "self-criticised" Islam.


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I believe you are right. I think they would risk getting murdered by fellow muslims if they "self-criticised" Islam.
How about reading the rest of the posts.

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It doesn't really matter how many peaceful followers there are - since they clearly have absolutely no control over the violent ones.

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It doesn't really matter how many peaceful followers there are - since they clearly have absolutely no control over the violent ones.
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What religious leader would criticise his own religion? Criticizing the actions carried out by the followers is something else altogether. As -DarthMaul- mentioned, Grand Imam Tantawy of the Al-Azhar Mosque speaks out against terror. And he is by many considered one of the most important figureheads of contemporary Sunni Islam.
Well, the Pope doesnt have to speak out against terror, because Christians don't frequently blow themselves up or kill people, the things the Pope can speak out against are things like "Hypocrisy" or at best wasting Church money, little of which waste lives.

Furthermore, the KKK hate Catholics, so don't even bring them up, M'kay?

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in a way the Pope shouldn't apologize.IMO he shouldn't.I believe in freedom of speech....hence I don't make a deal out of something like an Islamic cleric saying all western men and women should die or a leader saying a country should be wiped off the map.

do you know I found the same material in four different articles on the BBC and CNN?

the media always make a huge deal about this and the illiterate Muslims whose faces are usually shown in the protests and rallies....

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:\ How about british people sending out videos of themselves with sowrds threatning to cut off the head of everysinge muslim in the country if they dont leave? Or Nigerian christians that go out attacking muslims in mobs, or attacking mosques?

Both need to speak out against terror not one side..Ignoring non-islamic problems(terrorism) also makes muslims wonder why muslims are being targeted soo much and not the other terrorists? It dosent matter how often it is, it still happens.

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