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GuineaPig September 14th, 2006 03:37 PM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice
The only terrorists who threaten US are Muslim. I doubt the LRA is planning to take out New York. ;)

There are a couple extremist Latin groups that have it in for America, but for the most part you are correct. I was just correcting Jill's statement that the "only terrorists who target civilians are Muslims".

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice
Well let's put it this way: They're not G.I. Joe!

True, but in many other countries they would be called "freedom fighters". They were created to fight the Israeli invasion and occupation of Lebanon during the mid-90s, and have for the most part limited their attacks to only IDF personnel. They use conventional weaponry and tactics, and operate similar to an army.

Afterburner September 14th, 2006 03:47 PM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
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Originally Posted by GuineaPig
True, but in many other countries they would be called "freedom fighters". They were created to fight the Israeli invasion and occupation of Lebanon during the mid-90s, and have for the most part limited their attacks to only IDF personnel. They use conventional weaponry and tactics, and operate similar to an army.

They should have disbaned after Isreal left then, shouldn't they have? They are dedicated to the destruction of Isreal, that is easily considered a terrorist goal.

masked_marsoe September 14th, 2006 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GDICommando
The Turks say they have a "Democratic" nation, but it is usually under the influence of the Military and anti-minority sentinments.

So do the Americans.

Afterburner, what about the Israelis returning. Isn't that a decent reason to stay ready?

Crazy Wolf September 14th, 2006 06:02 PM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
The Israelis returned because Hezbollah felt like continuing their fight, after the Israelis left the battle. So, Hezbollah kinda brought the most recent invasion on themselves.

Afterburner September 14th, 2006 06:53 PM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
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Originally Posted by masked_marsoe
So do the Americans.

:vikki:
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Afterburner, what about the Israelis returning. Isn't that a decent reason to stay ready?
Isreali invades Lebanon, Hezbollah fights back and kicks them out. And then Hezbollah continues to attack Isreal after Isreal leaves. Then Isreal invades to get rid of Hezbollah. Hezbollah could better defend Lebanon by NOT ATTACKING ISREAL.

masked_marsoe September 14th, 2006 08:37 PM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
Sad, but true. In fact this thread is about that ;).

Go talk to Hassan Nasarayllah about what Hizbollah should have done, not me. But, had Hizbollah disbanded in 2000, what would be there to stop the Israelis attacking again?

Crazy Wolf September 14th, 2006 08:52 PM

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There would be no need for Israel to secure their borders and cities from attack, so they would not attack. Tada, the Israelis don't attack again!

I am guessing that Israel dos not like having to attack its neighbors. I mean, it'd suck if the USA had to constantly fight Canada or Mexico, and it did suck when Germany constantly attacked France and Eastern Europe. I know, an exaggeration.

Force Recon September 15th, 2006 01:16 AM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
yes.I started this thread about how you would treat terrorist suspects.It looks like most of them have been detained for no reason.
can anyone tell me how many people have been detained after the 9/11 incident?

masked_marsoe September 15th, 2006 01:28 AM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
There were 505 in Guantanamo Bay as of November 7th, 2005.

On November 5, 2001, the Department of Justice announced that it had placed 1,182 people into secret custody since September 11th. (http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0803-02.htm)

I don't think there are any complete figures out there, given the secretive nature of it, the time frame, and the cross-nation involvements.

Medhiv September 15th, 2006 04:04 AM

Re: fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?
 
you see ... there is actually no "war on terrorism" ... because a war is defined by something like, when 2 armies are fighting ... i think right now we can all agree on that point ... so what we have here, u can't even describe as a war in any kind of term ... you got america & uk on one side and a few thousand hardcore-facists on the other side ...
that's no war ... that's called gambling ... they are trying to eliminate bin-laden now for 5 years ... and even so, being dead he would only live up to be a hero for his followers ... and as said in the article above ... they are already winning ... because their greatest goal has nearly been achieved ... people are scared to death ... of just about anything that's somehow alien to them ...
and about that flying thing ... you'd be just surprised to see how suspicious people look at you sometimes even if you're not dark-skinned ... i for my part am pale-white, average tall, nothing special ... saying terrorist or so ..... so i flew to NY with a couple of friends this summer ... and we're all mixed up a bit, mostly russian+serbian ... you'd be quite surprised how many people started to feel uncomfortable when we began babbling in serbian ... as if we've already taken over the plane ...!
thank god, they didn't offload us aswell ... but things are surely getting worse and worse ... especially america ... :uhm: :uhm: :uhm:


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