fighting terrorism or Witch-hunts in mid air?

[Jill]

Originally Posted by Emir Al-Aziz

like I said racial profiling is okay but sending an innocent guy to Gitmo is not.

Well...sometimes that is the price of war especially since INNOCENT cilivians are targeted.

[Chemix2]

Every Arab or Muslim isn't targetting civilians, just a few, you're typing like you blame all arabs for 9/11, perhaps not actively or conciously.

[Jill]

Originally Posted by Chemix2

Every Arab or Muslim isn't targetting civilians, just a few, you're typing like you blame all arabs for 9/11, perhaps not actively or conciously.

True..but it seems so far that every terrorist that is targeting civilians are Muslim and Arab.

[Crazy Wolf]

Well, not every, but a large majority.

[Jill]

Originally Posted by Crazy Wolf

Well, not every, but a large majority.

What other terrorists are there right now? Oh you are right. I'm sorry about that. I forgot about the Muslims in Indonesia. They are not Arab.

[Crazy Wolf]

And the few European converts who were sidetracked from mainstream Islam and decided to try their hand at "martyrdom"

[Ma Deuce]

Originally Posted by Chemix2

Every Arab or Muslim isn't targetting civilians, just a few, you're typing like you blame all arabs for 9/11, perhaps not actively or conciously.

And what evidence do you have to support that?

[Chemix2]

It was in refference to Jill's post
I support racial profiling, but not wrongful imprisonment, and it shouldn't be expected to happen without any accounting for it

[Safe-Keeper]

Yeah, it sucks. But guess what, with the exception of one psychopathic hick, every major terrorist act comitted against the United States has been done so by an arab muslim. It simply makes no sense to check nine year old white kids, or 75 year old asian grandmothers.

Racist nonsense.
Timothy McVeigh, Paul Hill, and all the other abortion doctor shootings and bombings. And Richard Reich was white. You know, the shoe-bomber?

Well come on use your heads people Ma Deuce is right. Who do you want to check at the airports, Mrs. Jones and her 4 year old child or or Ahmed El-Naiza who looks a bit sketch? I mean serioulsy think about it.

Checks should be random, and particularly directed people who act suspiciously.
And yes, do some random checks on children and elderly, too. An elderly couple was busted for smuggling narcotics at a Norse airport some years ago.

I would have no problem if it turned out I fit the bill. If it was ONLY the color of my skin that would annoy me.

It is very often only the colour of their skin.

It would be illegal to put them in jail and such, but not illegal to hold them under special suspicion.

Typical head-in-the-sand detention-apologist's spouting.
UN Declaration of human rights:
Article 5.

• No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Article 6.

• Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

Article 7.

• All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.

Article 8.

• Everyone has the right to an effective remedy by the competent national tribunals for acts violating the fundamental rights granted him by the constitution or by law.

Article 9.

• No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.

Article 10.

• Everyone is entitled in full equality to a fair and public hearing by an independent and impartial tribunal, in the determination of his rights and obligations and of any criminal charge against him.

Article 11.

• (1) Everyone charged with a penal offence has the right to be presumed innocent until proved guilty according to law in a public trial at which he has had all the guarantees necessary for his defence.
  (2) No one shall be held guilty of any penal offence on account of any act or omission which did not constitute a penal offence, under national or international law, at the time when it was committed. Nor shall a heavier penalty be imposed than the one that was applicable at the time the penal offence was committed.

Article 12.

• No one shall be subjected to arbitrary interference with his privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to attacks upon his honour and reputation. Everyone has the right to the protection of the law against such interference or attacks.

And if that doesn't cut it for you, there's also the US Constitution and, in the case of the prisoners-of-war, the Geneva Conventions (read the whole of Article 4, not just the part that suits you).

I'm curious (and for some reason people never answer me) as to why you people don't apply the same standards to suspected rapists and murderers. 11 000 people are killed in the US alone from guns alone. Why the trials for someone who kill so many more people than the terrorists?
Oh, no, wait, let me guess: They're not Arabs.

The Japanese relocation camps (concentration camps are where people are systematically killed, get your facts straight) (...)

Ignorants should not accuse others of ignorance.
Death camps were where the killings occured systematically.
Concentration camps are where governments bring Jews, homosexuals, Asians, and other people prone to do evil deeds[/some irony].

(...) were the result of public outcry, not the acts of a responsible government.

It was the act of a government. What exactly are you saying here?

Of course that was stupid and not necessary, and we aren't doing that today either, nor will we.

Cough, Tipton Three, cough.
They capture people for being in certain mosques, for driving their taxi past certain buildings, and what the Heck have you.

True..but it seems so far that every terrorist that is targeting civilians are Muslim and Arab.

Wait, I do support racial and religious profiling. All you'd have to do is forge a passport that says you're Christian, and you're home free! Yay!

[N88TR]

Originally Posted by Ma Deuce

The Japanese relocation camps (concentration camps are where people are systematically killed, get your facts straight)

Yes that's what I meant. Sorry, but I'm glad you got what I meant.

Originally Posted by Ma Deuce

were the result of public outcry, not the acts of a responsible government. Of course that was stupid and not necessary, and we aren't doing that today either, nor will we.

But I'm asking, do you think that'd be okay to do, seeing as arabian-americans and other people of middle-eastern descent get searched more at airports, and are looked at closer by security guards? Just keep them all in one place to make sure we know what they're doing?