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Old September 8th, 2006   #11
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Well come on use your heads people Ma Deuce is right. Who do you want to check at the airports, Mrs. Jones and her 4 year old child or or Ahmed El-Naiza who looks a bit sketch? I mean serioulsy think about it. The world at this point had become to politically correct. We're too afraid of hurting the "minorities feelings." In fact in new york several months ago due to an elevated threat to New York's subway systems the tightend security. But the police where told NOT to randomly search people who looked to be of Middle Eastern decent because they didn't want it to appear like they were doing any racial profiling. Now that's absurd.

At any rate this has nothing to do with being inoccent until being proven guilty it has to do with who poses the greatest risk.
Do you remember when they put all Japanese/Chinese people that lived in America in concentration camps because we were warring with Japan? We were afraid that some of them were communicating with the enemy, so we had all the ones we could find and we put them under close supervision.

Do you think we should do that with all Arab-Americans, or American-Muslims?


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Racial Profiling is okay you say? Wasn't it innocent until proven guilty, not probably guilty but he might be innocent?
Nobody said they are guilty of anything.

It would be illegal to put them in jail and such, but not illegal to hold them under special suspicion.

The Japanese relocation camps (concentration camps are where people are systematically killed, get your facts straight) were the result of public outcry, not the acts of a responsible government. Of course that was stupid and not necessary, and we aren't doing that today either, nor will we.

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Hold them for how long? A day, a week, three years? Withhold legal rights?
And I assume also that they would be held in a hotel whilst not at home?


A concentration camp is one where a lot of people are concentrated in(to) a camp. Hence the name concentration camp. A camp where people are systimatically killed would be an extermination camp, or death camp.


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I picked this site because it summarized all the incidents nicely.
racial profiling is okay IMO but harming and terrorizing innocent people is not.In fact this will lead to disintegration of western societies .
you can't go to someone ,beat him up,treat him like a dog and then tell him to respect you and to accept your values.
Well you can, it doesn't mean they'll do it. The problem that airport security has is that if they don't do this when people say someone look suspicious and then a bomb goes off they're going to be looking at the largest law suit on the face of the planet. We're in a messed up age, but the chances are statistically speaking that a muslim/arab is more likely to be a terrorist than a person of a different origin and so they're comming in for the stick.
But you're exagerating, we don't generally beat people up accused of this sort of thing and then let them go. (Apart from that regretable mistake where someone was shot as their house was raided of course, but that was an accident.)

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I just to know you from you people whether such methods should be continued or countries of western authorities should come up with news methods of preventing terrorism.
It should continue. It is unfourtunate that a small percentage of the population has to be put to a bit of inconvinience but it decreases the chances of a plane getting blown up so it's worth it. The lives of several hundred people are worth much more than the inconvinience that a small group will be put to.

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If you are serious about fighting terrorists..than racial profiling is necessary. If you want to waste your time searching grandmothers and little kids...then you are not serious about the war on terror.

I don't think the TSA is serious about looking for terrorists. Just last week the TSA went after two Texas Border Patrol Agents that fired at an illegal alien bad guy trying to smuggle drugs into this country. Those two agents were found guilty of violating this bad guys civil rights when he tried to sneek into this country with a van filled with drugs. They have been found guilty and will serve 20 years in prison. Ironic huh? That is our TSA for ya. They try to be politcally correct and it will bite us in the ass eventually.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/natio...4058-4549r.htm

Truly amazing. I can't believe the TSA. Our country is in serious trouble.



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Truly amazing. I can't believe the TSA. Our country is in serious trouble.
Wow what's next?? I mean we have 2 people in trouble for doing their jobs. I think there comes a point in every society where it becomes too encompassing, too accepting, and too forgiving. This will lead to the end of our society as we know it. Just look what happened to Rome.
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Not sure what happened to those Johnny Canucks, probably in jail right now waiting to be tried.

Yeah, it sucks. But guess what, with the exception of one psychopathic hick, every major terrorist act comitted against the United States has been done so by an arab muslim. It simply makes no sense to check nine year old white kids, or 75 year old asian grandmothers.
Not true. 75% of recorded "terrorist attacks" committed against the U.S. have been perpetrated by people of latin origin, according to my 2005 "State of the World" encyclo.

The only Arab attack on U.S. soil was 9/11. So are you advocating racial profiling and discrimination ONLY against arabs? I don't think you are, but clear out what it is you wanted to say.

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Just because the attack was not on US soil does not mean that it was not comitted against the US. The 1983 Beirut barracks bombing was against the US. The Cole bombing in 2000 was against the US. The 1993 World Trade Center bombing was against the US (and on our soil). The list goes on.

What I'm saying is that as unfortunate as profiling may be, to follow it is common sense.

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like I said racial profiling is okay but sending an innocent guy to Gitmo is not.

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They're at Guantanamo Bay to figure out if they are guilty or not. The problem is that we never had a system set up to try people held as terrorists, which we are paying the consequences for right now.

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