The WAR is for REAL

[ekcoho]

Originally Posted by Chemix2

Trying to get rid of Islam will simply throw nitroglycerin on the fire. Reeducation will be seen as attempting to destroy the very culture of the middle east and would not be accepted. Try to get rid of religion will do nothing, but spark absolute hatred against the West and will be seen as a real new Crusade. As to the rest of the article, it's right for the most part about political correctness, but doesn't take into account the negative results of religious and racial profiling, those negative effects being hate groups, harassment and later sympathy for arabs despite any of their actions.

Well the issue is Islamic fanatics educated these people into what they are today. Sad that the Saudis used all those profits from oil to spread this fanatical belief. What is really scary is that this not 1 group of fanatics. There are mulitple Islamic fanatics we have to deal with. What do you do with a sexual predator? You can't reprogram them..it is embedded in them! That is why I think we have to take a course of action that sucks, but it will benefit not only Israel, USA, and other Western Nations, but it will help the Muslim community. Islam is hated because very few stood up to say what these terrrorist were doing was wrong. Because of that they gave the impression they condoned these actions. Having Iran and Syria beaten to a pulp will perhaps have an effect that the people will question their government. We already know that in Iran there is a earthquake about to happen between the people and those that rule.

[Napalm]

How will more killings and death bring understanding? Is that the solution to everything: "juz kill it". And what is to say that everyone will go along with the beating of Iran and Syria to a pulp?

It is obvious that wiping the walls with the civilians of a nation is not the best way to have peace and liberty.

[-DarthMaul-]

Uh guys, I still dont see where Syria comes into play with terrorism..hell does that mean if Egypt allies with Iran and Syria then suddenly all egyptians are terrorist too, in a terrorist nation? OR even Libya, or any other arab nation?

[Napalm]

Syria supports groups that are labeled as terrorist groups by the US:

The Syrian Government continued to provide political and material support to both Hizballah and Palestinian terrorist groups. HAMAS, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PLFP), and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine-General Command (PFLP-GC), among others, base their external leadership in Damascus.

http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2005/64337.htm

[LIGHTNING [NL]]

What a load of bullshit.

Muslim terrorism is so overrated. How often do terrorist strikes acutally happen? There were only 12 major attacks since 1979 according to your article. Is that enough to be worried about it? You have a bigger chance of dieing from toilets (see True but sad facts thread)! I for one am not at all worried about terrorist attacks. It's simply not frequent enough to worry about. The thing I do worry about though is the governments around the world making such a big deal out of it. The only gain that is made from it, is the government's gain by scaring people. People who are scared are easy to manipulate. "Oh" they say "but uncle Saddam had links with Al Qaida!" and suddenly a lot more people favour the war. Yes, you only have to mention the T-word and people will freak out completely.

Only thing good about the article is that it says Americans must unite. I'm pretty tired of this "liberals vs republicans" nonsense.

[-DarthMaul-]

Originally Posted by Napalm

Syria supports groups that are labeled as terrorist groups by the US:



http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/crt/2005/64337.htm

Oh those terrorists are dangerous to the US and Europe somehow :\ meh whatever.

[DnC]

Originally Posted by -DarthMaul-

Uh guys, I still dont see where Syria comes into play with terrorism..hell does that mean if Egypt allies with Iran and Syria then suddenly all egyptians are terrorist too, in a terrorist nation? OR even Libya, or any other arab nation?

I think it's because they support Lebanon which in turn supports Hezbollah. And because Israel is accusing them of allowing Hezbollah to fire rockets into Israel from Syria but they are denying it. BTW, Wiki has a page on it guys and it's quite useful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_crisis

[Joe Bonham]

The fact of the matter is the VAST majority of those 7,581 would of not been aimed at harming America. This is another case of the "world police" thing of which is quite disturbing since the dude who wrote it has very good credentials.

The vast majority of attacks in Iraq aren't against Americans. But that doesn't mean they aren't at war against us.

[Artie Bucco]

Well I have to have two seperate windows open so i can throughly knock this article to the curb.

Envy of our position, our success, and our freedoms. The attacks happened during the administrations of Presidents Carter, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton and Bush 2. We cannot fault either the Republicans or Democrats as there were no provocations by any of the presidents or their immediate predecessors, Presidents Ford or Carter.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157...363050?ie=UTF8
A read i reccomend to everyone.

His main point is that Arab antagonism to the West (and even non-fundamentalist Arab regimes' winking at terrorism) has its root in real grievances that have gone unaddressed by U.S. measures.

To put it it simple the threat posed by Islamic militancy is not because of our "freedom" but because of actual grivences that have been ignored by the United States.

[Napalm]

But isnt it a fact that many of these Islamic militant groups are angry at the US for interfering with the affairs of Islamic governments and law, as well as the stationing of American military in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Bahrain, and Yemen?