Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

I wasn't accusing your parents of taking welfare money, apologies if you percieved it in that way. You said "They won't get jobs as long as they are getting free food, shelter, and money.", I then asked if this was reason enough to stay homeless why does anyone work, why do your parents work, if all this free stuff is avaliable?

My parents work because living on the doll, or worse, being homeless, is shit, it's not a life many people would chose if they could do better (yes, I'm sure there are some that like living on the doll). However, the majority of people seek employment, even though there is a safety net of welfare to fall back on. The actual use of parents was largely irrelevant, it was just used to provide an example.

Soup kitchens are not the best method of helping the homeless in my opinion, but they are a help. This was a charity setting up these kitchens and now it is a bit like "don't feed the pigeons" sign, treating the homeless like vermin. None of the homeless people are been allowed to be given food in parks, regardless of if they have done anything wrong or not. These homeless people, as many have said, often suffer from alcohol/drug/metal problems and so it is very hard to get back into a normal life without some form of help. Building more shelters and support centres would help address the problem properly, trying to starve them won't.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

I hate that the government wants to get rid of anything that helps the homeless. The worst thing is, it's probably just to make it look like a more tourist-friendly place. As if they really need more money in Vegas. It's just ridiculous.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

So a rich mans space in the park and the rich fucks money is now officially more important than a poor mans food?
Welcome to the Middle ages.

Don't judge homeless people for being homeless, I can't believe the irony sitting listening to some rich middle class kids with flash computers under their paresnts roof talking about how it is peoples own fault that they are homeless.
Especially Pethegreat when he has talked about how he will leech off his parents aslong as he doesn't get a bike or an airgun.
So Pethegreat, say Mummy didn't give a shit about you, neither did Daddy, say tons of problems got in the way of education and you had no qualifications. It wouldn't really matter though, because apparently it's still fine for me to turf you out of my prescence because it was all your fault that you were doomed from the start.

Why don't some of you go out tonight and sit with a homeless person, listen to a story, you'll probably be in tears by the end.

I'd much rather spend my time in a park crowded with homeless people, than several stuck-up, ignorant, rich pigs.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

No one here is suggesting we shouldn't help the poor; but this is not the way to do it. As I said: "get them into a shelter, get them some clean clothes, and get them a job." Handing out free soup creates vultures. It isn't helping them, one bit.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

As I said, Why don't you go and listen to one of their stories.
Then you might have a better understanding why it doesn't quite work out that easily.
Have you ever considered people have serious problems getting in the way of them working? Obviously the kind of problems you couldn't begin to comprehend if you expect all homeless people to happily share a shithole with a load of other screwed up homeless people and get a minimum wage job (which in America is not enough to eat properly even if you work maximum hours)
Like most homeless people, I'd rather be on the streets than in one of those dodgey, horrible shelters.

And unless I'm mistaken most charities aren't funded by the tax payer, so the soup is not free, it is from charity;
I.E - you aren't paying for it so stop complaining.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

How would you know? That's a myth, sir. I work a minimum wage job, as does my mother. She supports a family of four on minimum wage, without government assistance.
Then live on the street and don't complain. If you don't like you're living conditions, and you're not satisfied with what you're offered, then tough shit. Beggars cannot be choosers, as Pethegreat said.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

I don't know what you're quoting my location for, if you're pointing out I don't live in America, well I know because of a documentary by Morgan Spurlock.

No one ever complained, what are you on about? Look at what you just said, one paragraph of uselessness.
People opposing you in this debate are complaining about Soup charity things being banned, not complaining about shelters. I shunned shetlers because you mentioned them to counter handing out free soup.

Now are you going to tell me that you're saying if people don't want to live in shelters (quite rightly like alot of people would not want to) they should be denied free soup?
And just for the sake of more space for the wealthy in the park?
Or are you going to say it's to encourage people to join shelters? Ya! brilliant idea! People don't know how to live so we will show them how! The Goverment will tell us how to live!

What's that old boy? You've decided you're going to take food from you're friends instead of joining the local shetler? Oh sorry but we don't think that's for the best of you or us, so we're not going to let you're friends give you food anymore, we're just going to indirectly force you into doing it out way! Because we have our own better way!

Great! People don't need to choose how they want to live anymore because the goverment has a better way for everything! We can just let them show us how to live. Let us allow the goverment to take away our computers because they might have a better idea for what we should do with our spare time.

Homeless or not you are part of the public and parks are for the public, as many homeless people whenever they like can be in the park at once.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

Why isn't everybody addicted to drugs? Why doesn't everybody smoke tobacco? Why doesn't everybody shoplift.


All of these habits and behaviors have the same answer - its a lot easier to avoid a bad habit than it is to quit once you've started.

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 

A bad habbit, something to be avoided you say, so why then would anyone want to be homeless?

"Why should you [work], when the government is more than willing to pick up the tab for you?"

It can not be both a desirable position to be in and something to be avoided. Given the fact you ignored most of my post this is going off at a tangent about how and why people become homeless rather than the debate on whether banning soup kitchens is the right thing to do or not.

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If you don't pay taxes you don't contribute to society, if you don't contribute to society you don't deserve a cut of the things that belong to society. Non-producers have no right even be in the parks in the first place.
Now I've heard sob stories enough and I've heard stories of people who made something of themselves and people who just let it slide, I've heard stories of ex sergeants who live on the streets and could make something of themselves again just by walking into a recruiting office. And you know what? I don't give a fuck. These people could have made something of themselves, others did under similar conditions.
Bottom line, they don't want to work hard to make something of themselves, aren't prepared to make the sacrifices required. So to hell with them, I sure as heck ain't dragging their carcass.