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Hanbit July 23rd, 2006 04:36 PM

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 
i cant wait til i see Las Vegas in ruins from no tourist...

groddy July 23rd, 2006 04:44 PM

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 
The economy in Vegas is already inflated enough through the frequent flow of people that travel there because of the gambling industry.

Because of this i whole heartidly agree with loco when he says that people will stop traveling to Vegas because the homeless people are becoming a problem there. Not only do they make the place look untidy but they are also rude/smelly drunks and wasters and also in many cases disease ridden, this will no doubt stop people from wanting to visit right.

As was also said the money which has been wasted on soup kitchens could have been spent better in cleaning the place up and ridding the streets of the bums, therefore making Vegas a more social place to visit instead of a dumping ground for American wasters.

Jeffro July 23rd, 2006 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat
Find me a homeless person who lost his job and was forced to live under a bridge. They like being homeless. They like not having to work for anything. They like not having any responsbility. All the soup stands are doing is encoraging this behavior.

I couldn't disagree more (my reasoning below).

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Get a job bums, and stop leeching off of people. And don't give me any "there are no jobs" crap. There are jobs out there. They are not the best paying or most glamarous jobs out there, but they will get you off the street.
I believe the majority of the homeless are either mentally ill and/or substance abusers. Getting a job isn't exactly an easy task considering these two major factors that torment the majority of the homeless. Who is going to hire a crack head or a person who is schizophrenic? It just simply isn't going to happen unless these citizens get help with their issues. Many cannot afford this treatment, therefore they have no other option besides being on the streets. And for the assumption that "they like it on the streets" is ridiculous. Who would want to be eating scraps out of a trash can and living in a roach filled cardboard box?

In a nutshell, the more aid towards mental illness and substance abuse programs, the less homeless people we be on the streets. While it's hard for me to open my arms to drug abusers, I think treatment is the best option.

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How about we allow mobile insane asylums, and exercise clubs for serial killers in the parks?

Because of all of these druggies, drunks, and the like - the parks were almost unusable by the rest of the population.
How did serial killers get into the equation? Is that even related to this conversation or just a ploy to detract our attention away from the issue? ;)

I suppose we should just stew up a big vat of acid and dip all of the homeless into it. Sounds like a plan to me. :p

groddy July 23rd, 2006 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro
Who is going to hire a crack head or a person who is schizophrenic? It just simply isn't going to happen unless these citizens get help with their issues

So your saying all homeless people are a complete waste of space really? Im sure there are some who can reform and try to fit back into society although this would be at a low level. It cant be a completely lost cause.
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Originally Posted by Locomotor
freebies aren't the way to get the homeless of the streets. Get them into a shelter, get them clean clothes and get them a job.

Nope only the chance of more drugs an alcohol will shift them.

IR15H July 23rd, 2006 05:21 PM

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How many people go to Las Vegas for the parks?

A charity spending it's own money setting up these soup kitchens, perfectly legally, is now told it can't. A gathering of people, yes, homeless people are still people, is not illegal. If some piss in doorways arrest them for civil disobedience or whatever. If there was enough support from shelters these kitchens would not exist.

groddy July 23rd, 2006 05:26 PM

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homeless people are still people, is not illegal.
I see your point about them being only human but in societies eyes they are considered a low form of human. As has been said before most are druggies,alcoholics,disease ridden and/or mentally unstable hence why they are out on the street in the first place.
Most also refuse to take the help which is offered to them as they enjoy the lifestyle they are living rotting in the sewers.If thats what they want leave them to it.

Young_Pioneer July 23rd, 2006 07:48 PM

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Great, again a fascist law that removes freedom in the USA...

Punish charity groups and force the outcasts of the capitalist society back into overcrowded, dirty facilities where they can be monitored easily by the state. So that no rich tourist gets offended while leaving his money in town.

Obviously, poor people have no lobby (and no rights) in the USA. I assume some guys on this forum would even propose labour camps for them...


Hanbit July 23rd, 2006 08:16 PM

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so what if theres too many homeless in the park. its called a PUBLIC park... to all those las vegas residents. you are more filthy then those homeless people...

Joe Bonham July 23rd, 2006 08:39 PM

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Find me a homeless person who lost his job and was forced to live under a bridge. They like being homeless. They like not having to work for anything. They like not having any responsbility. All the soup stands are doing is encoraging this behavior.
Exactly. They are poor not because of some villainous society - they are poor because of their own - if you'll excuse the pun - poor choices.

Take food for example. Us middle class people buy cheap, frozen food from stores like Safeway. However, the poor people we see tend to buy easy, prepared food. However, prepared food is far more expensive than frozen food. Middle class people buy beer in cheap packs. Poor people buy it one bottle at a time.

They are poor because they are irresponsible, and only see in the short term. This is a generalization yes, but a reliable one.

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How many people go to Las Vegas for the parks?
Its not Disney World. People live there you know.;)

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A charity spending it's own money setting up these soup kitchens, perfectly legally, is now told it can't. A gathering of people, yes, homeless people are still people, is not illegal. If some piss in doorways arrest them for civil disobedience or whatever. If there was enough support from shelters these kitchens would not exist.
A moot point. If I set up a stand offering free hundred dollar bills, I would get lots of "support" too. People love getting free stuff, but that doesn't mean its beneficial to the neighborhood.

Young_Pioneer July 23rd, 2006 08:55 PM

Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks
 
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Originally Posted by Machiavelli's Apprentice
If I set up a stand offering free hundred dollar bills, I would get lots of "support" too. People love getting free stuff, but that doesn't mean its beneficial to the neighborhood.

Nevertheless, it takes away freedom from the charity groups - and the people who would benefit from them.
Of course, this is an evil law and another step to tyranny.

The heartless corrupt politicians who passed this law should burn in hell (if there is one).



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