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Old July 23rd, 2006   #11
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A close friend of my family was homeless for two years. He hated every moment of it.
Then why did you not take him in? Friends help friends. I am fine with chartiy for those who want to take it and make something of it. I am fine with some guy using a shelter as a place to sleep while he saves his money to afford a place to live. I am not fine with some homeless drunk leeching off people to live.

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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

Actually, some find their standard of living to be higher living on the streets than stuggling to live with a job that doesn't pay enough for the lifestyle it requires. Some find it easier. Some of them are there out of choice, who don't want to have to live by someone else's terms, under another's control. There are ways to get good food for little or no money, if you know how.

Let the charities do their work, even though they shouldn't have to as a government of, by, and for the people should be looking after them.


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Hmm, I dont think you get it, pethegreat. The law is trying to force people to leave the parks and seek help at designed shelters. Many homeless people are drug addicts or mentally ill, so there is not this lazy mentality.

Las Vegas wants the homeless to leave the parks because they are turning them into places of residence instead of going to a shelter to find help. By removing the ability to stay in the park they are forcing them to find help.

This is not the best way to remedy this problem, but if you have homes and business who live near a park with homeless people, "some of whom have people urinating and defecating in front of their door".
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its forcing them to go to shelters where they can be helped better than on the streets/parks. i wouldnt want to see homeless in my park going to the bathroom(you get what i mean), or digging through a trash can. most homeless are alcoholics/duggies or mentally ill, ive read that some mentally ill think their way of life is completly normal. i think they should be forced into a shelter.

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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

How about we allow mobile insane asylums, and exercise clubs for serial killers in the parks?

Because of all of these druggies, drunks, and the like - the parks were almost unusable by the rest of the population.

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The money and time being put into those "mobile soup kitchens" can now be refocused on better located facilities.

The law is sensible.

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Then why did you not take him in? Friends help friends. I am fine with chartiy for those who want to take it and make something of it.
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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

You can see what they are trying to do by enforcing this. Boost tourism and the economy by pretending the problem doesnt exist. I doubt the people who brought the bill through thought about the effect it will have on the homeless.


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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

Wait there are going to fine $1000 to a homless person?
now thats dumb and stupid, even being kind is against the law.
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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

no, you should read it properly mate. They are going to fine the people setting up these mobile soup kitchens to help the homeless. That would be ridiculous if they fined the homeless, might as well just throw them straight into jail and let them rot.


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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

ok my mistake, missed the mobile soup bit.

its still wrong, its a kind gesture rewarded with a punishment
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Default Re: Las Vegas bans feeding homeless in parks

Wait... This bill would only fine the mobile soup-kitchens? I thought it would fine anyone offering a hand-out to the homeless while walking down the street. I revoke my previous stance; I'm all for it. These soup-kitchens are not helping; freebies aren't the way to get the homeless of the streets. Get them into a shelter, get them clean clothes and get them a job.

And to those who say that this bill is to further boost the vice-fueled economy of Las Vegas, you're exactly right. There isn't anything wrong (necessarily) with bolstering the economy, though. When tourists quit traveling to Las Vegas because they're sick of stepping over burn-outs and drunks, just to get back to their car, they'll think twice about spending money in Vegas, next time. And when the soup-kitchens merely make the problem worse with their "charity", everyone suffers; the homeless refuse to help themselves, lest they run the risk of having to pay for what they eat.
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