Re: Nuclear war: Cause, outcome, survivability
 

Like in the "Sum of all fears"? Possibly, but i have more faith in people then that. It makes no sense for one of the astablished nuke capable countries to launch a single-nuke sneak attack on a neighbour. well, besides NK, Iran perhaps. I figure the US and Russian goverment would reason the same way, and would keep their finger off the "destroy the world" button at least untill its clear who, what and why.

I'm not so much afraid of the big players, its the little guys that bug me the most.

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Of course we would survive, some would survive out in the open and be exposed to massive amounts of radiation, and a few very lucky people could take cover in a bunker (Don't know what good it would do when the food ran out, you'd have to come out but maybe the worst of the radiation would be gone).

I know I am a bit off topic, but would a fallout shelter be useful (As in the radiation levels would go down enough so that it would be survivable)?

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Obviously, depending on where you are, you could be spending years in a bunker, but you'd live.

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Their ICBMs lack the ability to reach the United States. Even if they do have an atomic bomb, it would be physically too large to deploy in an ICBM. So the threat of them nuking the United States is zero.

The chances that they would sell a bomb to terrorists is disgustingly high, hence the reason that us interventionists argue for stoping their development of nuclear fuel, as well as halting the enrichment process.

If they were to use nuclear weapons against any other state in the region, the chances are rather good that said action would galvanize the middle east community against Iran (the whole muslims attacking muslims bit), and that problem would be solved quite quickly.

Israel is working on some amazing missile-interception systems right now. Ones that, in live testing, downed the majority of SR/ICBMs thrown against it. In theory, a few batteries of them could protect all of Israel and much of the territory surrounding it.

Raptor, bunker's don't help much. At one point during the Cold War, a whole missile regiment (ten silos) of single four megaton SS-18 Satans were targeted directly at Chyenne Mountain, the command center for NORAD. The chance that even a bunker that well equipped would survive such a strike is almost nothing.

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Places like Autralia could probably save themselves.

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What makes you think that that was the best bunker in the world? It's pretty good, but we could have bigger and better bunkers hidden elsewhere (If you can't be seen you've already got a huge advantage).

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Cheyenne is the home of NORAD, there are not so many more important targets so they are probably as well protected as you can be.

No matter how deep you dig, a direct hit will at least destroy your escape-routes.

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I was thought Delta was talking about fallout and radiation, a fallout shelter would not protect against a direct hit.

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What if that is what they want you to think? In the event of a nuclear attack (Which is the only thing that can topple Cheyenne), all NORAD has to do is tell all of the American nukes to fire back. At that point, NORAD doesn't really need to do anything (In other words, the world is fucked, and you don't need to more nukes coming when your nation is already mostly glassed). By showing off NORAD as the "Best" bunker in the world you attract attention towards it while better bunkers could be beld elsewhere. The Cheyenne Complex may actually have a backup command station for all we know.

Unless you harden them well. Even if they were crushed beyond use, I don't think you'd want to come out too soon. The bunkers could have excavation equipment in them, or someone else could come and dig them out. Then again, the earth would be radioactive for a few years so you wouldn't have much reason to come out. The people would be find for a while untill everything stopped working (Our artifical worlds like Biolabs or whatever fail after like 3 years when someone screws it up).

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Chyenne Mountain is the command center for North American airspace defense. During a nuclear attack, it would be the most imporant single location, other than that occupied by the president, in the country.