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TheWindWalker April 11th, 2006 07:47 PM

Read this, it's great
 
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/edi...pected?mode=PF

SilentScythe April 11th, 2006 07:52 PM

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I didn't read the whole thing but i got the message, and i totally agree. Muslims seem to be too extreme in their views, constantly breeding these extremists who whant to kill everybody around them. They claim to be religious yet act none of the like. It's sad really.

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 07:55 PM

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Way to lump all muslims into the "extremist" group! :mihailhatesu:

FileTrekker April 11th, 2006 07:57 PM

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"read this, it's great - [link]" is Pub content?

Do you have an opinion on the subject yourself TheWindWalker, or are you spamming? = /

Anyway, I'm not taking part in a thread where an entire religon or people are going to be described as a whole. "They act like this" etc. It disgusts me.

TheWindWalker April 11th, 2006 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
Way to lump all muslims into the "extremist" group! :mihailhatesu:

/bow

Just kidding. I just find it funny that people complain about extremist Christians (and there are some, those who blow up Abortion Clinics and think all gays should be rounded up and shot) and yet they ignore how passive the religion is as whole compared to Islam. I also think that extremist leaders in the Arab world had a hand in whipping many of those described Muslims into a fury. (The fact that they're not exposed to free speech doesn't help)

Mihail April 11th, 2006 08:03 PM

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Muslims seem to be too extreme in their views, constantly breeding these extremists who whant to kill everybody around them.
How many times do you think it takes the wasps to come screaming out of their nest after being poked?

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWindWalker
I also think that extremist leaders in the Arab world had a hand in whipping many of those described Muslims into a fury. (The fact that they're not exposed to free speech doesn't help)

Gee, I've met many a Muslim around here who consider free speech a constitutional right and who are just as passive as Christians.

Generalizations are bad for the soul.

TheWindWalker April 11th, 2006 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
Gee, I've met many a Muslim around here who consider free speech a constitutional right and who are just as passive as Christians.

Generalizations are bad for the soul.

And just how much free speech does a theocracy allow? Hmmm?

And around here is where? It's only natural for people to desire freedom, I did not say Muslims don't want free speech, I implied that several governments over there deny their freedom of speech.

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 08:09 PM

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The United States is not a theocracy. The United Kingdom is not a theocracy. Most countries in Europe are not theocracies. Shall I go on?

TheWindWalker April 11th, 2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
The United States is not a theocracy. The United Kingdom is not a theocracy. Most countries in Europe are not theocracies. Shall I go on?

IRAN. ISRAEL. Shall I go on?

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 08:19 PM

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You can not say "I'm going to talk only about IRAN and ISRAEL" because they are not the only place muslims reside. I've said it again and again. Generalization.

If you want to continue this discussion, discuss everything and not just the bits that support your particular point of view. For Pete's sake you're like the daytime news :rolleyes:.

czech speacial forces April 11th, 2006 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWindWalker

are you jewish? jews tend to have a blind hate to muslims.

TheWindWalker April 11th, 2006 08:23 PM

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[quote=Inyri Forge]You can not say "I'm going to talk only about IRAN and ISRAEL" because they are not the only place muslims reside. I've said it again and again. Generalization.

[quote]

Can you say anything else besides GENERALIZATION? Do you always spew that? Do you always ignore the fact that hey, this is the middle east and the many leaders of that nations here are religous extremists? I'm sorry you've missed all that.

TheWindWalker April 11th, 2006 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by czech speacial forces
are you jewish? jews tend to have a blind hate to muslims.

To quote Inyri "Generalization".

No, I'm not Jewish. No, I don't hate Muslims. I hate extremists of any religion and the fact that people ignore the extremists running rampant in the Middle East.


Yes, that means I hate those Catholic priests who molested boys just as much as I hate terrorists who blow themselves up for a religous cause.

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 08:30 PM

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You hate extremists, yet you label the entire Muslim community as a bunch of extremists. That's a little extreme to me.

czech speacial forces April 11th, 2006 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWindWalker
To quote Inyri "Generalization".

No, I'm not Jewish. No, I don't hate Muslims. I hate extremists of any religion and the fact that people ignore the extremists running rampant in the Middle East.


Yes, that means I hate those Catholic priests who molested boys just as much as I hate terrorists who blow themselves up for a religous cause.

sry you came off to the wrong note to me. i thought you were one of those "kill them all" guys.

Nusentinsaino April 11th, 2006 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
You hate extremists, yet you label the entire Muslim community as a bunch of extremists. That's a little extreme to me.

The muslim community has enough extremists to stereotype themselves as extremists. :o

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 09:20 PM

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I'd argue that the people reporting the extremism are predominantly Christian sources, and that the non-extremist muslims are in such a vast contrast to the extremists that they are almost unnoticed. I've never met an extremist muslim, and I have to say the non-extremists are incredibly nice, passive, and intelligent. It's hard to view both parties and being from the same religion.

I'm sure if we were in a middle-eastern country they'd be saying the same thing about Christians and Jews in terms of extremism. It's all about point of view.

Nusentinsaino April 11th, 2006 09:23 PM

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Something that is terrible, extreme or malevolent seems to be more noticed than peaceful people. This is normal for humans.

Inyri Forge April 11th, 2006 09:26 PM

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That's my point - saying they must be mostly extremists because that's all you hear about isn't true. The gradient from passive to extreme is very sharp - there doesn't seem to be much in between for the muslim people. You're either nice or you want to blow people up :lol:.

Speaking of generalizations... *whistle*

Nostradamouse April 12th, 2006 05:08 AM

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Hey buddy, just to tell you, that virgin thingy, well it is simply a mistranslation from long long ago. I have already brought Quran analysis actually proving that the virgins are actually raisins. Then, no need to actually leave that kind of BS in your sig.

Force Recon April 12th, 2006 05:49 AM

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no the 72 virgins he is talking about is a unauthentic hadith.I never heard of it until CNN mentioned it.surprising isn't it?

about this link,the Koran vs Buddha Statue thing took place months ago in the Pub.

USMA2010 April 12th, 2006 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Inyri Forge
Gee, I've met many a Muslim around here who consider free speech a constitutional right and who are just as passive as Christians.

Butt their teh sleeper sells! zomg!

Tear13dowN April 12th, 2006 09:02 PM

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Not all muslims are crazy and evil. I know a few and they say the middle east is currupt and run by madmen. In their religion there shouldnt be presidents and such, only a small council of about 12 men as the supposedly "rulers" and thats it. They use to be a tolerant people and very respectful...until israel happened. Gee let me go to texas and cut land for the jewish people because they suffered alot and need a home.

Nostradamouse April 13th, 2006 04:59 AM

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All right, Ill have to agree with you on this one. Teardown. Exactly how it was, to confirm this, just go back to Saladin.

Joe Bonham April 13th, 2006 08:47 PM

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That column was priceless...:D

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Originally Posted by Nostradamouse
just go back to Saladin.

What do you mean by the Saladin referrence?

Do you mean he's an example of a good Muslim, because he allowed the Christians to live?

Or do you mean he's an example of a bad Muslim, because he had them all sold as galley slaves?

Tear13dowN April 13th, 2006 11:28 PM

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Saladin was a bit on the gay side. He allowed the Christians to live, BECAUSE he wanted to be seen as a great man so the Christians wouldnt retaliate and attack again to retake the city...little did he know about...OH YESS THATS RIGHT...THE MAN...Richard the fuckin LIONHEARTED! Saladin couldnt care less about any other religion rather then his own. He tried to be seen as a great man...BUT HE WASNT. He was also a ruthless killer.
All this isnt solving the problem or question, because this all happened back in the day...as time went by the arabs were tolerant and calm, and werent crazy like today because no one cared for them. They lived in peace without any problems...UNTIL THE ALLIES GAVE ISRAEL TO THE JEWS. They all retaliated because we saw borders between syria, palestine, lebenon, etc BUT THEY DIDNT...they believed in an islamic republic, and when you go into a country and cut land and take it from a people their ganna get pissed.

-DarthMaul- April 14th, 2006 04:05 AM

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Hahaha I seriously think the 72 virgin thing was made up by non muslims or something..by looking at the signature IN HIS LINK, What the hell are these 28 boys thing? I never heard it in my entire life till now. Homosexuality being active in Islam? LOL, dude, although this maybe considered bad because of civil rights and what not, muslims are some of the most anti-homosexuality peoples in the world. And your little site only posts one, ONE!!!, Aya(line) from the Qu'ran and you use it as an example? how about reading the whole page, and the previous and following page to find out the whole meaning?

No wabout the Fruits, Water, Wine, wealth, etc..what the heck man? really its heaven, what do you expect heaven to be? what do christians expect heaven to be? Ofcourse its gonna be full of all these good things for the people that make it there tosatisfy them, and they deserve it..You do know some of muslims wont make it to heaven, right? You do know christians and jews(depending on who) will make it to heaven, In our belifes.

And seriously..compare the sexual actvity of the average muslim teen to a christian or someone of another religion(well not jews), where did all this sexuality talk about muslims come from?

Your link automatically disregards everything you say, and think, with me. And the Wind, Israel isnt a theocracy(atleast not yet). Alot of leaders in the middle east are NOT religious. Mainly, look at egypt, libya, SAUDI ARABIA, Jordan, Lebonon, etc. etc. And about freedom of speech, there is freedom of speech over there, just not in the press and news papers, and TV etc..how do you think alot of people over there hate thier current leaders, and want to advance thier countries, and know about the freedoms in europe and the USA?

well I dont know what else I left out to rebuttle, but whatever.

edit: forgot to add about the homosexuality thing..Im sorry that you find it disgusting Males kiss other males on the cheeks or females kissing females, homosexual, but in reality it isnt lol, its a sign of peace, friendship ,etc. Man some things are just soo stupid, no body looks at the bigger picture anymore, its only you the lives in this world, so its only your rules and culture and ethics everone goes by..go read a book and learn about arab culture man, and Islam.


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