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Are you saying it's okay for Iraq to violate UN sanctions?

o rlly? http://www.usembassy.lv/EN/Iraq/defiance

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Killing them doesn't seem to be helping any. They have been in their death throes for two years now. :uhm:


All you need to kill an American is a ten cent bullet, ten cents isn't impossible funding. There are so many weapons over there, terrorists don't go with one hundred dollar bills to their nearest ammo store to pick up weapons. You can't starve terrorists away from weapons.

Because for the last few decades we live in a global world. The U.S. is no longer seperated by some ocean from the rest of the world. We can't do whatever we want and then expect to have others do what we want, it just won't happen.

On the same note, who cares what the rest of the world thinks about Iraq? If they want to shoot down enemy jets, let them. How come we are the only ones who can disregard everyone else?

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"A rough idea", indeed. Fact remains that if you kill one, another will take his place, and osama is still at large.
Funny.. That seems like a rather ineffective way of fighting terrorism. They will keep coming, its not really helping the western world at all, nor the middle east for that matter.


Ehh, that doesnt make any sense. How can they only be funded for so long when their sponsors keep making money?

:vikki: The Terrorism that affects us in the west, and those in Israel is not the kind that we see in Iraq. There mobs with AK47's ambush convoys, here, and there, normal looking people smuggle bombs around covertly. That kind of terrorism will never stop, unless we stop upsetting those people (not saying we should stop what "we" do in general)

The USA is a part of the world, if they keep pissing people off, people will hate them, and people will want to hurt them. Its that simple.. invading countries is not helping you decrease the kind of hatred that made 11sept happen.

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Hasn't been helping any? When was the last terrorist attack on American soil?

You seem to be missing my point, which is that the USA can kill terrorists just as cheaply as terrorists can kill Americans.

So we should just let Iraq do whatever it wants then?

Enemy jets? We are talking about Iraq's violations of UN sanctions by shooting down American and other coalition forces planes. You're saying that we turn a blind eye to nations that are unlawfully attacking us?

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You seem to think "they will keep coming," yet you do not realize that the groups supporting them do not have an unlimited amount of resources.



They are actually losing money so...


Stop upsetting those people? Most insurgency in Iraq are not actually Iraqi, they are from other nations. What do you propose the USA should do? Pull out of Iraq so the terrorists can claim victory and garner even MORE support than they did before? That's a recipe for disaster.

Dude, being nice to these guys isn't going to help either, it doesn't matter what the USA does the terrorists will still hate the USA 100%. These guys are pissed off all the freaking time.

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Ahem,

The sloution-
http://forums.filefront.com/attachme...1&d=1133840294

A simple but terrible sloution.

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A terrorist action in 1997 predates 9/11 by four year, as far as im concerned its business as usual.
Difference is, terrorists are willing to die to kill americans, and they succeed. Terrorism that strikes western people at home cant be stopped by brute force.
Wikipedia states that the US and Brittain's right to even put the no fly zones into place is disputed..
"The United States and Britain argued that the patrols were authorized under U.N. Security Council Resolution 688, adopted April 5, 1991. The text "condemns the repression of the Iraqi civilian population in many parts of Iraq", but does not specifically mention no-fly zones."
I guess the civilians living in central iraq were not important enough, eh?
People tend to have jobs, or even businesses, they make money, this money goes to terrorists sometimes.
How do you know?
The Terrorism in Iraq is different from what we now face at home, they are attacking an army with conventional weapons. At least some of them. they got all sorts of them in Iraq. And no, they shouldnt pull out, its to late.
You cant sweep all terrorists on the same heap, they all have very different motivations. You can NOT, stop all terrorism, but if you start relying on covert ops instead of cruise missles and tanks to destroy and kill mportant supporters, the hate fueling more people to take up arms and bombs to kill westerners will be decreased.. over time. PATIENCE.

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why do you care so much about Bush and the war so much. your canadian why do you care so much about america. you dount pay the taxes that pay for the iraq mess nor do you know the cost in human life that this war has caused. its a war with a forgotten cause. you live with fear so you want a war that will help protect you. that is exactly what the terrorists want. the dount care how many of their fighters are killed as long as the take some american lives with them. its a sick war that shouldnt be fought. also the terrorists want you to live in fear. that is the whole point of it.

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It will be hard to do it because of all this propaganda from both sides.and resident conspiracy theorists don't make things better.

http://whyislam.org/forum/default.asp

go to this link .Its an Islamic forum.this is the place the actual "war' is taking place.

the most common things we have to explain what is jihad,mujahideen and that 70 virgins thing.

It became a jihad(struggle) for us to explain to Non-Muslims what jihad actually means.and 70 virings thing ain't in the Quran or the four hadith collections as far as I know.

it was me a and a lot people who had to explain the same thing million times on the same day.

the real war "Islam vs West secularism" has been taking place in the media,newspapers,books,internet forums,etc.

the most important thing-forget about democracy and secularism in the ME.The people there are satisfied with the Islamic law.Islam do give women their rights.Go to that forum and ask the women there.Though Saudis do get extreme sometimes(its their fault).stop lecturing about freedoma nd democracy and those stuff.Do them later after the current conflicts stop.

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and later go to China or some dictated country to preach about human rights.