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GreatGrizzly December 5th, 2005 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The 13th Raptor
They will need to convince the average Ali across the world that they are not out to kill muslims, nor that they are at war with their religion. (some-one make bush stop saying "god bless america" and "axis of evil" in the same statements in which he threatens to attack yet another islamic country).

Doing so would lessen support and new recruits for the terrorists, cruise missles and GI's cant stop terrorism, only make it worse.

I have been saying that for quite some time. Finally, people are listening!

czech speacial forces December 5th, 2005 05:12 PM

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i think isreal should do what they did after their olimpic athletes were murdered by palestinians. a group of speacial forces found each one that was involved and killed them. i think there is a new movie on it thats comin out.

WarHawk109 December 5th, 2005 05:27 PM

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Most of the people fighting the USA in Iraq are terrorists coming from other nations like Syria, Iran etc, and are funded by Al Qaeda. Invading Iraq was a brilliant move on the part of the USA IMO as it has created a front in the heart of the Middle East in order to combat Al Qaeda and islam-o-fascism. Sure they exaggerated a bit in order to get support for the war, but most of the exaggerations were on things that were believed to be true at the time. The good news about this is that Al Qaeda is becoming weaker and weaker due to the fighting in Iraq and is becoming bankrupt because the USA is consistently beating them soundly.

czech speacial forces December 5th, 2005 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WarHawk109
Most of the people fighting the USA in Iraq are terrorists coming from other nations like Syria, Iran etc, and are funded by Al Qaeda. Invading Iraq was a brilliant move on the part of the USA IMO as it has created a front in the heart of the Middle East in order to combat Al Qaeda and islam-o-fascism. Sure they exaggerated a bit in order to get support for the war, but most of the exaggerations were on things that were believed to be true at the time. The good news about this is that Al Qaeda is becoming weaker and weaker due to the fighting in Iraq and is becoming bankrupt because the USA is consistently beating them soundly.

we are becoming bankrupt also you idiot 6 billion a month to be exact. plus the cost of human life. its not worth it. we should use that money on security in the US. also why did we need to invade such a large country to fight the terrorists. why not some smaller country. iraq is too big for our military force to control.

WarHawk109 December 5th, 2005 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by czech speacial forces
we are becoming bankrupt also you idiot 6 billion a month to be exact. plus the cost of human life. its not worth it. we should use that money on security in the US. also why did we need to invade such a large country to fight the terrorists. why not some smaller country. iraq is too big for our military force to control.

USA becoming bankrupt? PUHLEEZ. Also, it's not just about fighting terrorists, Iraq had done a number of things to provoke the USA, shooting down air planes in the no-fly-zone for instance, refusing to cooperate with UN inspectors as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_1205

Tas December 5th, 2005 06:01 PM

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Most of the people fighting the USA in Iraq are terrorists coming from other nations like Syria, Iran etc, and are funded by Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda is not one organisation with a command structure like many people believe.. its just a name for a collection of people who do whatever.

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Invading Iraq was a brilliant move on the part of the USA IMO as it has created a front in the heart of the Middle East in order to combat Al Qaeda and islam-o-fascism.
By your reasoning, unless you invade Syria, Iran, etc. You wont be achieving anything but providing the terrorists a place to take shots at your troops. In the war against terrorism, there is no front, do you believe m16's, m1a2's, f22's can defeat terrorism? They cant. And what is this "Islam-o-fascism" you speak off?

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The good news about this is that Al Qaeda is becoming weaker and weaker due to the fighting in Iraq and is becoming bankrupt because the USA is consistently beating them soundly.
O rly? How can an organisation that doesnt even really excist go bankrupt? Terrorists will keep recieving money from a load of sources.. Besides, all you need to make a bomb is household chemicals. The war in Iraq only created more hate against America, and more fuel for the determination of terrorists.

czech speacial forces December 5th, 2005 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by WarHawk109
USA becoming bankrupt? PUHLEEZ. Also, it's not just about fighting terrorists, Iraq had done a number of things to provoke the USA, shooting down air planes in the no-fly-zone for instance, refusing to cooperate with UN inspectors as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resolution_1205

if thats all we need for a reason to invade a country lets invade. china, north korea, somalia, and many others. and yes the USA can become bankrupt. where do you live if i may ask. also i guess some southern state that thinks bush is the greatest president ever?

WarHawk109 December 5th, 2005 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The 13th Raptor
Al Qaeda is not one organisation with a command structure like many people believe.. its just a name for a collection of people who do whatever.

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Though the current structure of al-Qaeda is unknown, information mostly acquired from the defector Jamal al-Fadl provided American authorities with a rough picture of how the group was organized. While the veracity of the information provided by al-Fadl and the motivation for his cooperation are both disputed, American authorities base much of their current knowledge of al-Qaeda on his testimony.
Bin Laden is the emir of al-Qaeda (although originally this role may have been filled by Abu Ayoub al-Iraqi), advised by a shura council, which consists of senior al-Qaeda members, estimated by Western officials at about twenty to thirty people.
* The Military committee is responsible for training, weapons acquisition, and planning attacks.
* The Money/Business committee runs business operations. The travel office provides air tickets and false passports. The payroll office pays al-Qaeda members, and the Management office oversees money-making businesses. In the US 911 Commission Report it is estimated that al-Qaeda requires 30,000,000 USD / year to conduct its operation.
* The Law committee reviews Islamic law and decides if particular courses of action conform to the law.
* The Islamic study/fatwah committee issues religious edicts, such as an edict in 1998 telling Muslims to kill Americans.
* In the late 1990s there was a publicly known Media committee, which ran the now-defunct newspaper Nashrat al Akhbar (Newscast) and did public relations. It is currently assumed that media operations are now outsourced to internally redundant parts of the organization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_qaed...ain_of_command
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By your reasoning, unless you invade Syria, Iran, etc. You wont be achieving anything but providing the terrorists a place to take shots at your troops. In the war against terrorism, there is no front, do you believe m16's, m1a2's, f22's can defeat terrorism? They cant.
Why invade another country when the ones that you are fighting are coming to you in droves to be slaughtered?
I suppose you think hugging the terrorists will yield better results hmmm?
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And what is this "Islam-o-fascism" you speak off?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamofascism
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O rly? How can an organisation that doesnt even really excist go bankrupt?
I used to have a link that showed how Al qaeda was losing money, but I can't find it. :(
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Terrorists will keep recieving money from a load of sources..
Yes they can find funding in other places, but they can only be funded for so long, and eventualy they will lose the will to fight.
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Besides, all you need to make a bomb is household chemicals.
All you need to kill a terrorist is a ten cent bullet, so what?
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The war in Iraq only created more hate against America, and more fuel for the determination of terrorists.
What difference does it make what the world thinks? The last time the USA tried being nice to everyone they ended up with 9/11.

WarHawk109 December 5th, 2005 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by czech speacial forces
if thats all we need for a reason to invade a country lets invade. china, north korea, somalia, and many others. and yes the USA can become bankrupt. where do you live if i may ask. also i guess some southern state that thinks bush is the greatest president ever?

It doesn't matter what country the USA invades people will always say "WELL WHY DIDN'T YOU INVADE THIS COUNTRY HUH?"

I live in Canada.

-DarthMaul- December 5th, 2005 06:48 PM

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USA becoming bankrupt? PUHLEEZ. Also, it's not just about fighting terrorists, Iraq had done a number of things to provoke the USA, shooting down air planes in the no-fly-zone for instance, refusing to cooperate with UN inspectors as well.
Yeah, I am going to send MILITARY JETS over your country's Air Space and tell me..are you gonna shoot them down?

and refusing to cooperate with UN..that was taken care of long before the war.

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also i guess some southern state that thinks bush is the greatest president ever?
Not me I live in Florida, and I dislike Bush.


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