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Depends. when it comes to Arab neighbours and a new modern war I am going to dismiss the older wars, and say it will need america's help. unless they use thier nuclear power they will need help. my point is still no matter what, look still palastenians get through check points and crap and start firing thier home made rockets, and shooting people any how.

Never? Ever heard heard o fthe Israelir war of Independance? or the October/Ramadan/Yom Kippur War? In those wars they attacked israel.

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The US cannot help them contain the palastinians any better then they can by themselves! The israeli's have the experience and the tech to do it. As i said.. the agressors would face the UN's and US's combined wrath if they dared to invade.


Yes, and not to long before Japan bombed Hawai.. But thats unlikely to happen again isnt it?

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Maul, although I agree with your post for the most part, I feel that I should set the record straignt, as I do oh so well. :D

Yeah, the US has given Abrams MBTs to Saudi Arabia and Egypt. But that isn't like all military vehicles are necessairly up to date in those countries. Some rather old aircraft, such as the Soviet built MiG-23, are still used in the Egyptian Air Force. Older MiG-29As serve in many middle eastern air forces. The backbone of the Iranian armor force is a Chinese build derivitive of the decades old T-55, hardly an Abrams killer (or for that matter an Abrams threatener).

We are not attacking your religion, let people know that! What we seek to destroy are those who use your religion as an excuse to kill. He who bends Islam's meaning, from peace to war, is our enemy. What we need is for people to realize this, and you can help.

Raptor, war has changed. Now the countries of Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Iran are waging a proxy war on Israel by funding and equipping terrorists, rather than declaring open war on them. The enemies of Israel realized that this is simply not the way to go about defeating that country in the Yom Kippur and Six Days wars. They certaintly are not willing to risk being destroyed again.

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Ok well there is one thing you can garantee in this world. Terrorism will always be in it. Terrorists don't fear death, they welcome it as it is part of their religion.(well for all Arab Terrorist groups/cells, n some others).

Also Terrorists are cowards, they mainly inflict their damge on the civililian populations of the world to make some crazy point.

The Thing is Terrorism is "Indestructible"; How ever much Blair and Bush Toss each other off over methods of winning against terrorism, there will be no end. Something a lot of people mis-understand is that the enemy shooting at us in Iraq and Afghansitan is Militia not terrorists, terrorist blow up cars, and buildings. Terrorists are scum, I have no honour for them. :moon:

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So you end it by e-mooning the populace?

I agree that terrorists will be always with us, you should at least try to look intelligent.

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Mig-29 s no matter what version arent that bad though :p. and those Mig-21s(yeah pretty sad they are 21s not 23s), have been aggressively updated with modern technology from nations like france, britian and USA. Egypt and Israel have roughly the same number of modern air craft. who knows egypt might be used as the pawn of war again(hopefully not, other arabs need to fight wars themselves instead of throwing us all of the resposibility and blame).

I do agree about the part of Iran though. not to turn this into a military discussion thread don't they have some Tomcats I hear?

and true. I do agree terrorism can't be killed off 100%. in a world like ours with soooo much different langauges and religions and political views there are bound to be terrorists of some sort. but they still need to be curbbed in a way.

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The MiG-29A is manuverable, but is quite lacking in avionics. It even lacks a modern Heads Up Display. Though the Mirage is a great aircraft


Egypt does have MiG-23s, although they may have sold them somewhere down the line. And Iran does own some F-14As. However, the US never gave them spare parts or repair equipment after the Revolution. Some reports suggest that they were used as early-warning aircraft in the Iran-Iraq war.

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One thing for sure is negotiating with terrorists won't get you anywhere either. They're not going to listen to you. Between trying to talk to them and killing them, I'll go with killing.

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in that case, why are you guys still so friendly with saudi arabia when they wage an underground war against israel?

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Money. Business. Resources. Power.

Thats why.