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Tas December 4th, 2005 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by USMA2010

"I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in their Blackhawk helicopters. The infidels fired at the oil fields and they lit up like the eyes of Allah. Burning oil rained down from the sky and cooked everything it touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my goats were consumed by the fiery black liquid death. In the midst of the chaos, I could swear that I heard my goats screaming for help. As quickly as they had come, the infidels were gone. It was on that day I put a jihad on them. And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too."

:lol:

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I've got news for you guys. Without American support, Israel would cease to exist. They are one of our closest allies, and have just as much a right to live in that area as Palestinians. The US will not stop supporting Israel, nor should they.
How is that? The palastinians are no threat to them, even tho the countries surrounding them would love to kick some israeli butt, they wont stand a chance with their outdated russian crap. Besides, they wouldnt attack because the US wouldnt hesitate to help out any western country that is under attack, they know what too. There is no need to be all overly friendly and mushy with the "zionist invaders",it doesnt make you very popular among the muslims.

Delta Force December 4th, 2005 10:25 AM

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Maybe these terrorists would deserve a bit more respect if they didn't act like a bunch of thugs and have to resort to kidnapping peace activists and others for the fowarding of their goals. That is the ultimate form of cowardice, attacking the very people sent to end the war against you. We ain't gonna pull out if your to busy acting like a bunch of pimps and keep trying to instill a religous belif in others without them liking it. Why would any person with any morals (even some guy on death row here) EVER submit to an ideologiy of hatred like that. We just need to start killing all the war mongering muslims and blowing up the sites they work at. I'm not against muslims, only the terrorist ones. I would never join their religon just to survive becasue these cowards don't even care how many fellow muslims they kill, so long as they kill one Christan. But you really can't blame them, we stated this war hundreds of years ago, with the Crusades. And now us non-catholics have to pay for your crazy pope Urban's mistake. You guys suck.

USMA2010 December 4th, 2005 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The 13th Raptor
:lol:



How is that? The palastinians are no threat to them, even tho the countries surrounding them would love to kick some israeli butt, they wont stand a chance with their outdated russian crap. Besides, they wouldnt attack because the US wouldnt hesitate to help out any western country that is under attack, they know what too. There is no need to be all overly friendly and mushy with the "zionist invaders",it doesnt make you very popular among the muslims.

  • Hamas
  • Islamic Jihad
  • Hezbollah

http://graphics.boston.com/bonzai-fb...83137_3607.jpg

http://www.rotten.com/library/histor...mas/hamas2.jpg

http://www.jp-petit.com/Geopolitique...do_suicide.jpg

You were saying?

Yeah, the average Palestinian is sick of the fighting. But I've got news for you mate, those people blowing up school buses and temples are either Palestinian, or Palestinian trained terrorists.

The "problem" is that between making a world of Muslims happy and being allies with Israel, we would rather be allies with Israel. Personally, I agree with that idea.

Tas December 4th, 2005 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by USMA2010
You were saying?

Yeah, the average Palestinian is sick of the fighting. But I've got news for you mate, those people blowing up school buses and temples are either Palestinian, or Palestinian trained terrorists.

The "problem" is that between making a world of Muslims happy and being allies with Israel, we would rather be allies with Israel. Personally, I agree with that idea.

The israeli's can deal with the terrorists themselves, they have enough tanks, helicopters and jets to fight terrorism in the US's style.

This is a popularity contest, you cant stop terrorism if you keep fueling their hatred. Then again, maybe you cant even win this war at all.

Relander December 4th, 2005 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by USMA2010
I've got news for you guys. Without American support, Israel would cease to exist. They are one of our closest allies, and have just as much a right to live in that area as Palestinians.

Israel can very well take care of itself now. It has one of the most powerful armies in the world in terms of quality and its neighbouring countries have no match against its army which is the most powerful in the Middle East. Israel's economy is doing well even without US help, it has large weapon industry of its own and the relations with Egypt (which is going towards democracy) are quite neutral now. There's no such threat for Israel that it would need the support of USA. And like 13th Raptor pointed out, the USA would protect its ally against an invasion.

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The US will not stop supporting Israel, nor should they.
Then face the consequences. Israel was the root for whole terrorism against the USA. May I ask, why you are so keen in supporting Israel?

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Originally Posted by amoreelitesoldier
I, personally, think Islam itself is violent. You may disagree and say it is peaceful, but what if the largely publicized folowers of Islam are freakin' suicide bombers and murderers? What about the riots in France?

Like has been pointed out many times in these forums, the religion of Islam isn't violent in itself. It's just the religious fanatics and other radicals who twist it into their own means and the circumstances are quite favourable for them. Remember the Crusades?

What comes to the riots in France: French officials knew very well that they would break out sooner or later but they decided to forget the problems. The riots didn't broke out because most of the rioters were muslims, but because their living conditions were/are clearly bad. They don't have much services, many original French despise them and its hard for them to get work because they aren't original French. Furthermore, French assimilation policy instead of adapting doesn't make their living any easier. Everyone cannot start some kebab restaurant or clean up offices.

And if it was because of Islam, why the muslims in Germany (that make up about 10 % of the whole population) haven't rioted? Because these problems are much smaller in Germany than in France.

Admiral Donutz December 4th, 2005 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by EON_MagicMan
That's a pretty good post.

I really think there is a large difference between the insurgency in Iraq and the terrorism that toppled the world trade centers or bombed Madrid and London.

While the insurgency in Iraq is a form a terrorism, with the tactics they use, it's far more local than the terrorism we know too well. The "terrorists" being killed in Iraq aren't the ones who would be planning big international plots, but rather the ones who answer the call to arms after the invasion. Same goes for the people in surrounding countries who want a piece of the action. We are hardly wearing down their numbers, but rather, making more.

Like duh! :p That is what a lot of "foreing" people are trying to tell you ever since the war started. Guess why so many countries opposed the Iraqi war? No proper prove of WMD's, no links to terrorism, Iraq being one out of more dictarships, some were the people are a lot worse off etc.

The war on terror never can be one either, all we can do is try to prevent attacks from happening and try to solve the root of all issues but for every "terrorist" you kill one or moe will rise again. Fighting terrorism is a must but it's a battle that can not be won.

USMA2010 December 4th, 2005 12:09 PM

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They kill innocent people. Murder is murder. There is no difference.

Tas December 4th, 2005 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by USMA2010
They kill innocent people. Murder is murder. There is no difference.

So many regimes out there commit such crimes, yet they are left alone.

WhiteDragon_Tru December 4th, 2005 12:34 PM

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thats a good post.. but america is attacking them a reason.. mainly revence for 'defacing' american property... it wasnt right of them to attack us true.. but retailiating will just piss them off.. BUT it also shows them we are willing to fight for what we believe in, sure the goverment is screwed up, alot of things in this world is

USMA2010 December 4th, 2005 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The 13th Raptor
So many regimes out there commit such crimes, yet they are left alone.

What happened to we can't police the world?


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