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Joe Ali.

No its not the US govt attacking Islam,but most western media,some historians,professors,etc.Danial Pipes an example.

I am afraid,most Muslims are now afraid.We had suicide bombings in Bangladesh,people got killed.Only retards support them.

found something yesterday,UBL used to go to strip clubs in Lebanon lol.


Insurgents are mostly Sunni Muslims who hates the Shias and US for giving them too much power.There are certain shia militias and they are being supported(yes I admit I think its most possible) by Iran which itself is a shia country.

Sunnis are mostly Saddam's supporters.also the start of the invasion have fueled anger.

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I stand corrected, Your average Ali :lol:

All the more reason for them to believe the west is against them.

Are you saying that most of the terrorists born in iraq?

I believe only some of them are homegrown. Others are from many countries all over the world.

But then again, I dont have any figures with me.

BTW were is the Banana Islamic Republic?

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You just can't replace one culture with another and how would you actually even do this? And how you know that so called "African" or "Asian" cultures (it's like saying "American" culture, putting all countries in America into one box) could succeed better than western one? The Coalition isn't replacing the Iraqi culture, just bring western elements into it.

That's nonsense: you can't buy ALL weapons from Russia, China etc. and make sure that there's no secret weapon factories, no illegal dealers, no illegal weapons etc. and it would cost so much money that we couldn't comprehend with the numbers. It's simply impossible.

So you mean that all the sacrifices made by the Coalition, its supporters and Iraqis & Afghans would have been in vain, not to mention billions & billions of dollars spent to the war? Should the Coalition leave Afghanistan & Iraq, abandon them and let them start civil war, giving a chance for a new dictator to start his own tyrant regime? That's absurd, there's no turning back in this point.

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hehe I just heard something liek Banana Republic,so I got the idea from there.

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If someone threatened to attack or actually attacked something holy to you, would you yield?

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smart idea.really smart.Saudi Arabia is friendly with the US and the King is an opponent to Bin Laden(they hated each other).and what do you mean by smash Muhammad's(P) body to dust?

true but these guys haven't got any weapons,they solely rely on suicide bombing.

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Even tho i agree that attacking every mainly muslim country because they may or may not be harboring terrorists is rather counter productive. I dont think pulling out is an acceptable option at this point.

You guys will need to stay and rebuild the country while taking casualty's, untill the people are happy. If the majority of people is happy with what you are doing, "terrorists/insurgents" will be ratted out more often untill virtually none remain. If you cant make the iraqi people happy, you guys are screwed.

How do you go about reducing acts of terrorism.. first, minimilise your presense in the middle east. STOP all support to Israel, they can take care of themselves after being protected for over 40 years... Easier said then done, but heh, no-one said it was going to be easy.

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Wrong.

If that was true, then virtually every practicing person of Islamic faith would be fighting the United States right now. Not true. Although there is support for terrorism in many arab states, the vast majority of people do not commit terrorist acts. Thus making your "Average Mohammad" statement false.

The war on terrorism must be a two pronged attack. One is to capture and punish terrorists, while preventing terrorist acts. The other is to fight the root source of terrorism. Although the United States is currently doing both, there is a definate emphasis on the former rahter than the latter.

"I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in their Blackhawk helicopters. The infidels fired at the oil fields and they lit up like the eyes of Allah. Burning oil rained down from the sky and cooked everything it touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my goats were consumed by the fiery black liquid death. In the midst of the chaos, I could swear that I heard my goats screaming for help. As quickly as they had come, the infidels were gone. It was on that day I put a jihad on them. And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too."

I've got news for you guys. Without American support, Israel would cease to exist. They are one of our closest allies, and have just as much a right to live in that area as Palestinians. The US will not stop supporting Israel, nor should they.

Abrarur, in Iraq one of the more popular forms of attacks is having four or more insurgents charge at an American base guns a blazing. They apparently hope to get inside a building and then kill as many people as they can before being killed themselves. Fortunatly, the M240 prevents that from happening most of the time.

Basically put, not all suicide attacks are with bombs, fortunatly.

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Well, Grizzly, George Washington didn't strap C4 to his body and blow himself up in a British market, etc...It's not quite the same scenario. We are attacking an 'ideology' that believes all non-Muslims should be killed. The 'insurgents' and 'terrorists' are cowards, they wait to kill until they see unsuspecting women and children.

I agree with you on one point though, it is hard to sway the argument when the opposing force wants to die. I, personally, think Islam itself is violent. You may disagree and say it is peaceful, but what if the largely publicized folowers of Islam are freakin' suicide bombers and murderers? What about the riots in France?

When was the last time you saw Christian suicide bombers? Hindu? Buddhist? Catholic? Mormon? Jewish?

That just about singles Islam out as the violent, problematic religion despite what Allah intended.

EDIT: Couldn't have said it better myself. :)

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:cry:

Very well put mate.