And So It Begins

[Ray2488]

As most of the Americans should know, two nights ago(Tuesday) there were elections were held for minor public offices and the like. One of the worst outcomes was the banning of firearms in San Francisco. The other two major cities that have firearms barred previously are Washington DC and Chicago. I can't help but wonder how long it'll be until all of our "freedoms" are stripped from us.

[Inyri Forge]

And hasn't crime gone down in Chicago? I'm not up on the statistics, but I'm sure you'll provide some to back up your position... I should hope you would, anyhow.

Prove that banning firearms has been detrimental for Chicago and Washington DC.

[GreatGrizzly]

hmm, the thing is with banning guns is yes, there are less weapons that can potentially harm someone, however, thinking that banning guns will get them out of the hands of criminals is ridiculous.

however, some facts say otherwise:
http://www.ghananationalcouncil.org/crime.htm

Chicago with a decline of 150 murders and Washington, D.C., with a decline of 50 account for 51 percent of the net nationwide drop.

i also find this theory for the decreases interesting:

The nationwide legalization of abortion in 1973 produced a generation with fewer unwanted children, and therefore fewer criminals.

[AegenemmnoN]

banning of firearms? you're kidding!

[Inyri Forge]

Originally Posted by GreatGrizzly

hmm, the thing is with banning guns is yes, there are less weapons that can potentially harm someone, however, thinking that banning guns will get them out of the hands of criminals is ridiculous.

Well then it's easier to see who the bad guys are, isn't it?

Making sacrifices for the greater good is part of what it means to be a responsible adult. Some people don't seem to understand this, and use the constitution as a means of covering up their own selfishness. People do not need weapons just for the sake of having them. In fact I daresay for most normal people, having a weapon would make them more of a target, because they likely don't have the training to use it properly, and any criminal who knows how to fire a gun would know this.

[MrFancypants]

Originally Posted by GreatGrizzly

hmm, the thing is with banning guns is yes, there are less weapons that can potentially harm someone, however, thinking that banning guns will get them out of the hands of criminals is ridiculous.

Not as ridiculous as handing out more and more firearms to counter the threat of being shot by one.

[USMA2010]

It actually went up in Chicago after that dick Daley banned handguns. Gun crime went up in London 40% after firearms were banned.

Making guns illegal only worsens the problem.

[Inyri Forge]

Fine, but if you're going to go handing guns to people, make sure they know how to use them, so they don't end up shooting themselves.

And make sure they know how to store them, so their kids don't go around accidentally shooting their little brothers.

[GreatGrizzly]

criminals will get guns no matter what.

If you are armed, and they know it, there is less of a chance that they will threaten you, or burglarize your home, because they will get thier head blown off.

THis however is not an excuse to just hand out guns, they still need some strict rules as to who can own guns, tracking of weapons and proper training.

Its a balancing act, as with most things. Dont ban guns, but dont allow the US to turn into a country of outlaws.

[Inyri Forge]

And then what? All too often some horrible "tragedy" occurs, and everyone cries. Why? Because these people had to have a gun, and left it out in the open for something awful to happen.

I think I'd rather be shot/burglarized than know I was to cause for someone's death because of my incompetence. Accidents happen, but when accidents happen with a gun, there's no going back. There's no "oops, I'm sorry."