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The problem is that if you want to defend yourself with a gun you have to keep it loaded somewhere near you. If it is locked away with ammunition in a different place (which is the most safe option for those with children) it won't help you much.

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So solution: if you have children, don't have a gun.

That's a choice of what's important: Your safety, or your children's safety. Most paren'ts would say the latter, but the question is are they being truthful...?

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so i guess we should ban cars to, because someone had to drive the car while intoxicated and end up hitting a kid.

Also, most incidents with guns are not accidental. Just because you hear on the news about a kids shooting himself while playing with a gun doesnt mean its a constant occurance.

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Nah. Ban alcohol.

I wouldn't mind banning cars, though. I can walk to school.

How about we just ban idiots?

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According to irnyi everything needs to be banned and we all have to live in padded rooms.

If you have kids teach them how to properly use the gun and how to store it correctly.

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You want to teach five year olds how to use a gun? How about we just drop them in a school and say "Okay now, go shoot the teachers"?

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The gun is the instrument that causes the death, just as the car is the intrument that causes the death of the pedestrian.

if only it were that easy :D

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I wish it were that easy, then we wouldn't have to have this discussion.

Unfortunately it's not as simple as banning guns, or banning cars. That's the "quick fix", which doesn't fix anything at all.

I'm sorry, I was playing the devil's advocate. I don't really believe in banning guns - in fact I agree with you that it makes more problems than there originally were. However handing out guns to everyone and their mother isn't the solution either.

The problem is not in the guns themselves, but the ease in acquiring one. I'm not talking about gun regulations either, because I doubt most criminals go out and get their weapons legally anyway. Something needs to be done about the people, becuase as you said, the gun is only a tool. If criminals can't get guns, they'll use something else.

It's kind of like a weed. Pull the weed out and it'll be gone for a while, but it'll be back. Kill the roots, and you've solved the problem.

If only it were a simple task...

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Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Ban guns and we be killing each other with knifes. Ban knifes then we be using rocks. Pretty soon there gonna have to ban humans.

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I already suggested that, but they poo pooed my idea :( ........:p