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USMA2010 October 6th, 2005 06:07 PM

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Amen. Too bad Estrada isn't open for nomination anymore.

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. October 6th, 2005 06:09 PM

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Like i said, im going on faith with this one.....she might be the perfect person for the job, her lack of background may be a blessing in disguise.......i guess we shall see

NiteStryker October 6th, 2005 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
her lack of background may be a blessing in disguise.......i guess we shall see

You (and Bush) may be right, Rehenquist had no experience either. But I would feel more comfortable with someone that had a backround in the field. We dont like to hire high school dropouts for NASA...

Jeffro October 6th, 2005 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by NiteStryker
You (and Bush) may be right, Rehenquist had no experience either. But I would feel more comfortable with someone that had a backround in the field. We dont like to hire high school dropouts for NASA...

Lies. We send monkeys up into space. ;)

Relander October 7th, 2005 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GreatGrizzly
and with the democrats power low, we are one step closer to a fascist controlled america :rolleyes:

Fascist controlled? The Republicans have a majority in all branches of government (Congress, White House, Governorships, State legislatures), but not big enough so they aren't able to make any sort of autocracy nor they want it. Blood n Guts said it better.

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Originally Posted by USMA2010
Not true. The Senate and House almost never require a simple majority (51% or more) in their decisions, but either a 2/3 majority or 3/4 majority. Even though the Republicans hold most seats, the Democrats still hold enough that they can block legislaton, so long as they don't care about their political campaign.

Thanks for information.

Let's see what will follow.

Oblivious October 7th, 2005 04:23 PM

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I'm not a big fan of this nominee. I really don't know much about her, but that's not my main issue with it...

Bottom line for me is that at 60, she's just too old. I can't imagine she'd be there for more than 10-15 years. There are plenty of well qualified candidates for the court that are nearly a generation younger.

Jeffro October 8th, 2005 09:32 AM

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Bush Says Miers Has Experience, Leadership

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051008/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush


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WASHINGTON - President Bush countered conservative displeasure Saturday with a detailed defense of his Supreme Court nominee, saying White House counsel Harriet Miers would bring to the bench vast experience in the courtroom and at the highest levels of government.


"No Supreme Court nominee in the last 35 years has exceeded Harriet Miers' overall range of experience in courtroom litigation; service in federal, state and local government; leadership in local, state and national bar associations and pro bono and charitable activities," Bush said in his weekly radio address.

"Throughout her life, Ms. Miers has excelled at everything she has done," he added.

A growing number on the right have expressed displeasure with Bush's selection of Miers to replace retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor on the Supreme Court.

The grumbling stems from Miers' career, which encompassed 28 years as a corporate attorney in Texas, stints as a member of the Dallas City Council and as chairwoman of the Texas Lottery Commission and, since 2001, as a top member of Bush's White House staff.

None of the positions provide a public record clearly identifying her as a strong conservative.

Some worry that Miers could end up disappointing the right much like Justice David Souter, a little-known judge nominated to the court in 1990 by President George H.W. Bush who later turned out to be more liberal than expected.

Other critics have expressed concern about her lack of experience grappling with constitutional reasoning.

Robert Bork — whose nomination to the high court was rejected by the Senate in 1987 — called the choice of Miers "a disaster on every level."

"It's a little late to develop a constitutional philosophy or begin to work it out when you're on the court already," Bork said Friday on MSNBC's "The Situation with Tucker Carlson." "It's kind of a slap in the face to the conservatives who've been building up a conservative legal movement for the last 20 years."

Bush sought to give a rebuttal to the critics — offering a point-by-point recounting of her background and talents that revealed the level of concern at the White House about the conservative reaction.

The president touted the "hundreds of cases in state and federal courts, from massive commercial litigation to criminal cases to civil disputes" that Miers handled as an attorney at a large Texas law firm. And he said, as White House counsel Miers addresses complex matters of constitutional law and "sensitive issues of executive-congressional relations."

Bush also spoke glowingly of a candidate outside the realm of sitting judges. Since 1933, he said, 10 of the 34 justices — such as the late Chief Justice William Rehnquist — came to the Supreme Court directly from positions in the executive branch.

"Harriet Miers will be prudent in exercising judicial power and firm in defending judicial independence," he said.

As of Friday, the end of Miers' first week as the nominee, she had met with 16 senators. She was spending the weekend in Texas gathering material from her legal career to answer the Senate's questions, White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said.

Look at her "experience" :uhoh: :

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The grumbling stems from Miers' career, which encompassed 28 years as a corporate attorney in Texas, stints as a member of the Dallas City Council and as chairwoman of the Texas Lottery Commission and, since 2001, as a top member of Bush's White House staff.
Oooh...the lottery commission!

NiteStryker October 8th, 2005 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffro
Oooh...the lottery commission!

Hey man give her a break. It takes alot of effort to run a state lottery and draw numbers!

I say that makes her the best qualified person out of dozens of younger people with years of judicial experience!

:cort:

Jeffro October 9th, 2005 09:45 AM

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Some Democrats Jump to Miers' Defense

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...su_co/miers_27

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WASHINGTON - Some Senate Democrats are jumping in the middle of a Republican fray to defend Harriet Miers from conservative criticism that she isn't qualified to serve on the Supreme Court. That doesn't mean Democrats will vote to approve President Bush's longtime confidante for the high court or give her an easy time at a Senate confirmation hearing.

Behind the scenes, a half-dozen aides to Senate Democrats — speaking on condition of anonymity to protect their jobs — admit that they are enjoying watching the GOP's right wing beat up the president. None will say whether their bosses feel the same way — or might be insincere when they heap praise on Miers and call her critics unfair.

"All the trashing is coming from the right wing of the Republican Party," Sen. Tom Harkin (news, bio, voting record), D-Iowa, said in a conference call with reporters. "I really think it's despicable what they're doing."

Sen. Barbara A. Mikulski (news, bio, voting record), D-Md., accused critics of Miers' nomination of being "incredibly sexist."

"They're saying a woman who was one of the first to head up a major law firm with over 400 lawyers doesn't have intellectual heft," Mikulski said. "I find this a double standard."

More unusual is the outright praise from some Democrats for the person who would replace retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, a critical moderate vote on abortion, affirmative action and other close rulings.

"I like what I hear so far," said Sen. Mark Pryor (news, bio, voting record), D-Ark.

Many conservatives don't. Several columnists have derided Bush's decision, and some groups have called on the president to withdraw her name. Bush insists that Miers is worthy, citing her 35-year legal career and her service in city and state government as well as the White House.

"When she goes before the Senate, I am confident that all Americans will see what I see every day: Harriet Miers is a woman of intelligence, strength and conviction," the president said Saturday in his weekly radio address. "And when she is confirmed by the Senate, I am confident that she will leave a lasting mark on the Supreme Court and will be a justice who makes all Americans proud."

There are 55 Republicans, 44 Democrats and one independent senator, Jim Jeffords of Vermont. If six conservative Republicans vote against Miers, a united Democratic caucus along with Jeffords could defeat her nomination.

Galling to many conservatives is that Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid of Nevada recommended that Bush nominate Miers and has praised her several times since then without actually promising to vote for her.

The White House enlisted many conservative leaders to testify that Miers would be a reliable vote. Sen. Patrick Leahy (news, bio, voting record), the Senate Judiciary Committee's senior Democrat, tried to counter that assurance when he asserted that Miers pledged to be independent when they discussed her nomination.

"I said, 'Would you disavow people who send out assurances that they know how you're going to vote?' She said, 'Absolutely,'" said Leahy. "She said, 'I will be my own person, I will be independent. Nobody has the authority or right or ability to tell how I'm going to vote.'"

Democrats are preparing to blanket the White House with document requests to help flesh out Miers' judicial philosophy. However, her work there would fall under executive privilege or lawyer-client privilege.

Bush aides have anticipated such requests. While Miers will answer senators' questions, the White House will not provide them with "confidential deliberative documents" relating to work for the president, spokesman Scott McClellan said.

Democrats are keying on demands by conservatives that Miers be forthcoming at her confirmation hearings. Last month, the court's new chief justice, John Roberts, had solid support from conservatives when he declined to answer many questions from Democrats. This time, Democrats hope Miers will feel pressured to be more open.

"The idea that Americans shouldn't know what the judicial philosophy of the nominee to this powerful, powerful position is, is wearing thin with the American people, whether they be liberal, conservative or moderate," said Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y.
Why? Why defend her!? She doesn't know the judicial system from a poptart...

I say we ship most of the Democrats and Republicans (Including John Kerry, Dubya, Dick(head) Cheney, and Ted Kennedy) off to a secluded island and start clean. McCain and a few others will stay, but that will be about it.

Blood n Guts October 9th, 2005 11:09 AM

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It's politics. They don't really approve of her, but they're jumping at the chance to capitalize on a fight within the GOP and make them look bad. That includes the use of sexism allegations against those that do not support her. Supporting her also means putting someone on the bench that, due to age, likely won't remain on for very long.


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