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View Poll Results: who was the best president?
Bush junior 15 17.05%
Clinton 55 62.50%
Bush senior 7 7.95%
none of them they are all bad 9 10.23%
I have no idea 2 2.27%
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Old September 30th, 2005   #151
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Unemployment under Clinton was 5.6%. Under Bush it has so far hovered around that same mark. Last year the national average was actually 5.5%. Clinton did not create the prosperity he presided over; he contributed to the end of the boom that started under Reagan. Crediting Clinton entirely for that prosperity is like crediting Truman for the US victory in WWII or crediting Harding for the prosperity in the 20s. Truman only was president for the last 4 months of the war, and Harding was inept and presided over an extremely corrupt administration which probably hastened the coming of the great depression; he certainly did not create prosperity, he only presided over it. The case with Clinton and prosperity isn't that extreme, he presided over the last 7 years of the boom (about 1/3rd of its length), and, even though his tax increases slowed the economy down slightly, I don't think his policies lead to the recession at the end of his term. Recessions are natural and inevitable.
Damn good post. Prepare for red karma from the left.

The recession came when all of Clinton's programs' bills came...and they all came due when Bush became President. Everyone knew they would. (I mean, every intelligent person knew they would). So, combined with 9/11, we fell into a light recession.

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for all those who support the war i would like to see you patroling iraq in 120+F. degrees.
Hello there t00l we have people on these forums who are enlisted and are going to Iraq soon, so your petty "why dont you try it" argument will NOT work.
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liveing conditions in iraq are worse. a bombing about everyday. the humvees are not fully armored and dount have air conditioning.
Oh really? Wow, thanks for telling all of us that information which none of us knew! Thank god for you!

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the only reason to go to iraq was to make money. cheney has the company haliberton that is rebuilding iraq. also bush wanted to take over the oil fields of iraq.
See you can say that all you want. You cant prove any of it.
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bush dousnt care about the people of iraq. while troops are dieing and being shot at in 120 degree weather.
Being shot at kinda sucks nomatter the temperature...

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THERE ARE NO WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ.
Again, thank god for Mr. Intel here.
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stop watching FOX news and turn on something like CNN or MSNBC.
Yes heaven forbid we get real news, we must have our liberalized news!

And it actually shows that Fox news continually kills every other news station in ratings, so even if it is 'republican', its apparently satisfying enough people. Mabey because us repubs dont believe that America is the evil country that liberals do? Is that why you hate Fox news so much?

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if your thinking clinton should of taken out osama then maybe we should of never given him weapons to fight the russians and there would be no twin towers attack. the russians would take over afganistan and make it a modern country with not osama.
If Russia had taken Afghanistan it would still be the dirtball it is right now.


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calm down..... you must admit bush jr is one of the worst presidents. also i said FOX news has the highest number of confused viewers.(read the article in the link) communism is a popular form of govenment,look at china. china kills the most people of any country. why dount we invade them? im not democrat and im not republican. why arnt we going after osama with the full force of the US army. iraq did not cause 9/11. also i have a question. why is iraq still partialy in the stoneage?
Iraq was a safe hold for terriost... Saddam was giving weapons to them.... Saddam was paying $10,000 to any family of a suicide bomber that killed the jews in israel... Saddam is no worse than Osama. You rather have Saddam in office raping more people and killing more people? Have his sons still alive raping their soccer team any time they lost a game? Honestly why wont people get their heads out of their asses. We took out a dictator and are putting in a democracy in Iraq where the people will have a chance to vote and make their own rules now and don't have to worry about a dictator...... We gave a country in the middle east a democracy.... Yes are troops are dieing but the signed up for the military and new the risk, and most of all they want to be there. Yes they miss home but they want to be there to give freedom to people who never had freedom.

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you gotta admit that we could of done a better job and planned it better.

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Somalia got ugly because Clinton is retarded, pure and simple. Even Jeffro, the most knowledgeable liberal around here, knows that Somalia's failure was because of Clinton.
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I think we've discussed all possible pro's and cons for all presidents, so I won't even bother to explain myself voting for Clinton. Daddy and Baby Bush can't compare
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you gotta admit that we could of done a better job and planned it better.
There is always one more thing you can do. But I don't even want to imagine how many people would have been killed after 9/11 and O:IF if Al Gore was president.

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Clinton is the better choice, he was not lining his pockets with money unlike bush with his wars.
Exactly, I say Clinton.

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