Global Dimming vs. Global Warming - The Revelation of 9/11
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| The following BBC article is about two corresponding phenomena of environment pollution: The global warming (caused by greenhouse gases, mainly methane and carbon dioxide emissions) and the global dimming (caused by dirt particles and vapor trails of aircrafts that reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the earth). Basically, the global dimming reduces the effects of global warming. If we reduced the causes for global dimming we would drastically suffer more from global warming. The effects of (a reduced) global dimming were observed shortly after 9/11 when (nearly) no planes had been flying in US airspace (thus leaving no vapor trails in the sky). During the grounding the temperature range (!) jumped by over a degree Celsius. I saw the BBC documentary about global dimming on TV and I have to admit that the theory was quite new to me. SOURCE1 (short version, see below) SOURCE2 (full version) Quote:
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| Disturbing, yet interesting. I've never heard of this Global Dimming before. |
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| Thats interesting.. but i seriously doubt aircraft vapor trails block out that much sun, its just a thin strand that dissapated after like.. a few km's? and look at all those huge clouds formed naturally..
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| Global dimming? It makes such a difference? Heard of global warming, but thats it.
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| I guess it is plausible; clouds can block out up to 25% the sunlight. The problem I have with this is that (IIRC) in order for clouds to block out 20% of the sunlight, it must be a very cloudy day with no blue skies. Even with all the jet traffic and industry that we have, we haven't quite been able to completely blanket the sky with contrails or pollution to create that effect. Although I find it likely that these particles cause some degree of dimming, and probably are much more opaque than condensed water droplets (so much less are needed to cause the same effect), IMO there just can't be enough of them to block out that much sunlight because it would be gray skys all day.
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| I dont know where you live but the light sure as hell isnt dimming over here in Texas |
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| Hmm...i never knew about this, good find. ![]() Its definetly a good topic, as global warming prevention requires global dimming, yet both are harmful to the ozone, and the air in general.
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| Yeah, I've read about stuff like this (back in 1996), but it wasn't called "global dimming" back then. Volcanoes blowing up were reducing regional temperates and eventually it had a (slight) global effect. |
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| I think it would still be better to just make less pollution. Global dimming, if it does work is still not a solution to the problem of global warming, it is just another side effect of artificial causes that evens the playing field a bit. Not enough. Nuclear Winter would be a better option.
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