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And he never dropped his tequilla slushie? Legend.

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Personally, I am not against sex before marriage but I certainly feel there's no point to it unless I really care about the other person/feel comfortable with them/ or am too smashed to know what I'm doing. Fuck, i feel like a god damn nun compared to you all lol, but the truth of the matter is i just dont see the point in having sex now, its not like i care to get it out of the way or not so i figure why not wait... at least till i care enough to do it

And someone mentioned something about peer pressure earlier. It's true in most cases that sex isnt the factor of peer pressure. But in the end there are so many girls out there (theyre getting younger and younger) that feel they need acceptance and therefore sleep with guys who they (the girls) think actually cares about them. I've lost friends that way... they didnt care enough to listen to what i had to say

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Sex before marriage > other options.

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I wouldn't say I'm against sex before marriage, but I believe in abstinence for myself anyway. It's futile to try and force it onto other people, you just need to accept their views on it. I think abstinence is better, because then you share your virginity, your "first time" with the person you love (hopefully), as I believe that sex is an act of love, and a way of physically showing your love for someone. It sounds naaive, and probably is, but it's what I believe.

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Originally Posted by Zab

Sex before marriage > other options.

Is that all you have to say? Even with all sorts of birth control the risk is still around %1 of getting the girl pergant and ever higher for getting an STD, crabs can't be avoided. Why would you take a risk that high just for pleasure? A womans body will try its hardest to get pregant to contine the species, and no ammount of pills or devices can stop it.

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Originally Posted by Steakboy

Sexuality, you should note, IS ment to have an emotional impact. As an efficient if not simplistic example, take a continuum, a line straight accross. On the one extreme you have the christian virgin (doesn't have to be christian, I'm just using that for statistical reasons a christian is less likely to submit to sexual immorality,

Do you have any statistics to support that? I've known lots of Christians (lots) and they were no more "pure" or sex-free than anyone else.

Usually, you tell people to stay away from something or not do it--what happens? They are driven moreso to do it.

I think Christians "claim" to be free of--now what did you call it..."sexual immortality" http://forums.filefront.com/images/s...rcastic%29.gif but I'd bet hard bloody cash they are no better than non-Christians.

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but are by far immune, as I know oh too many who have fallen). This christian has taken abstinance to heart, and for them, this sexual relationship is ment to be one of closeness and intimacy between those two who are so pure in their love and emotional comfort for one another that is unmeasurable. For this person to give themselves physically to another human being would be the ultimate testimate of their undying devotion and love to this person, showing how special to them their partner truely is, that they would give themselves fully emotionally, mentally, spiritually, and physically to the love of their life, their spouse, the person they have made a commitment to spend the rest of their life with.

Yeah, you need to get laid, dude. Seriously. It's really not that big of deal--it just seems that way when you're young and in awe of the opposite gender (that mostly passes).

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If that is too extreme of an example, I'll go a less distant on that end of the spectrum (but not by much); Hollywood. Hollywood is worldly pleaures incarnate. Taken at a moment's notice by the attractiveness or even the shallowly pleasing personality, this person lives as they work. Unlike the pornography star, this being would not give themselves to anyone, instead they would make their physical offering to those who appease them on the surface (our more shallow emotions not born of passionate feelings are part of the surface, not just the physical appearance as is often its figurehead). Slightly less of an evil, but an evil none the less. As they look to the shallowness of a person -- their 0utward self, that which they allow the world to see instead of true self inside -- they never truely understand the deepness of each other's soul. As a result, after there consumation, and later wedlock, they get the briefest glimpse of that which lies beneath, and don't understand it, they fear it. The person they begin to see is not the person they knew not so long ago. As they no longer know one another, a rift is forged between them of their own shallowness and deepness conflicting. This breaks their physical and base emotional ties, spliting their relationship all together. This is why the stereotypical Hollywood marriage only lasts a short while and no true bonds are ever formed.

That happens all over North America, not just Hollywood, as well as in Europe to a lesser extent. Divorce rates are over 50% here--and there are a variety of factors for this (it's never just one thing--not that simple).

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Argue as you may, sexuality was ment to be a bond between those who are one; the ultimate testimant of their undying devotion and love.

Sexuality was meant for procreation. Since we've done such a fucking marvelous job at that, we've looked at birth control methods, which has allowed partners to have sex much more often without worrying very much about kids. Is it right? Is it evil? Is it sin? Is it right on and funky fresh? Depends what you believe. The world is what it is, and you can either accept it, or preach on a street corner with a carboard sign and get ignored anyway, up to you.

Why do you care what other people do?

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And for the record, do not think am so presumtuous as to "come down from the heavens" to teach those "lesser" than I how to carry themselves. Far from it. Morality is such an important aspect of humanity to me because I myself have often been known to fall prey to the most detestable of my non passionate feelings; lust. It is something that I detest of myself every weaking moment of my life. I speak not only to chastise you and the acts of the world at large, but in turn to chastise myself.

Please define "morality" for us.

Anyway, you just keep chastising yourself--I'm going to go have sex with a couple hot chicks in a few hours, so, later :smokin:

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Nothing wrong with sex before marriage. Feel free to have sex when "you are ready" for one person this might be after marriage, for the other before it. Some person might be mature and wise enough to have sex at his/her 16th, others much later. It really depends per individual. Just be aware of the consequences sex (can) have, do it saftly and make sure you and your partner are both "ready" and plan to be in a long lasting relationship. If one thing annoys me it are people who have a new bedpartner onces a week or more...

Have sex when you want, when you are "ready".

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Look bible-nuts. Mary wasn't a virgin: she was 14 when she had a kid and it wasn't from Joseph either. Joseph forgave her and raised the son Jesus with Mary. Joesph lived to his early sixties.

Therefore, youth-sex isn't bad. Just make sure to have contraceptives: both condoms and the pills/patch.

Is there a wrong to personal pleasure? Is there a wrong to making a relationship stronger and more trust oriented? So, just be careful and if your abstaining and NEVER had a sexual relationship, get one now.

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Look bible-nuts. Mary wasn't a virgin: she was 14 when she had a kid and it wasn't from Joseph either. Joseph forgave her and raised the son Jesus with Mary. Joesph lived to his early sixties.

And you heard this where?

Mack

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Originally Posted by Pethegreat™

, crabs can't be avoided. Why would you take a risk that high just for pleasure?

lol. ever hear of mowing the law, son?