If their main food source was in the water, and over a period of time they keep eating animals from the water, eventually they are going to make changes to allow them to manuever in the water better. Until, that is, they are in the water completely. You're hypothesis is easily blown out of the water by fifth grade biology.
HOOFED animals dippy, I know animals go in the water, this one did not, the author just even said it did not, it's not an ancestor of whales, it's a RELATIVE of whales, are you following this story yourself?
anyways only thing that the creationists do is try to disprove the evolutionary theory , there is no way they can prove that god created everything , only thing they have is their faith
anyways only thing that the creationists do is try to disprove the evolutionary theory , there is no way they can prove that god created everything , only thing they have is their faith
because it's flawed. I'm not saying there is no evolution, I'm just pointing out errors. Evolution may be what God used as a means of creating life, I'm not debating that issue because I don't know for sure. If you really want some fun, go disprove God exists. Go dig up Sporky's old thread and have a hay-day with it yourself.
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Yes, they did exist, but i believe they existed with man....
personally, i believe they were wiped out, not entirley from a comet/meteor, but from the great flood, but that is a different topic...
Forgot who posted this and sorry to bring it up so long after post, but it is pretty much proven that at the time of the dinosaurs extinction there was a meteor that hit and caused a thick layer of dust to form and cover the atmosphere. This led to a sever ice-age and did not allowed for plants to recieve sun for photosynthesis.
Pieces of the meteor have been discovered and aged to (around) the year of the exctintion of dinosaurs. The crater is on the Tunguska river in Siberia (i believe) and had the power of a 10-megaton bomb.
My thoughts on the whole evolution theory is that it does exist. Did we derive from apes? No. I believe that when the cells divided in early stages of evolution, two seperate but similar beings emerged. One of the ape, the other of the human. Perhaps God had planned this from the beginning in order to give faith in all non-deity believers and that it was made from his form. If God doesn't exist then it all relies on complete and factual history (aside from where the universe was created or what of).
As for our age, notice the increase of baldness. Date back to early times and pictures/paintings of older men. Not many are nearly as balding as today. In fact, women's balding has increased within the last 100 years. Perhaps fingernails and toenails were originally claws, maybe we did have use for tails, maybe we didn't walk on 2 legs until recently.
If you think about how long we have been around, we have evolved a significant amount compared to other creatures, perhaps that puts us in a whole other theory of evolution. Say the existance of Earth was put on a one year scale. Humans didn't come along until late in the day on December 31. We have evolved that much, of a single cell organism (possibly), to what we are today. Imagine what we will be like in another 5,000 or so years.
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Hmm, a problem with your browser? I had no problem opening my link repeated in YOUR post, but anyway... Maybe just a temporal web server overload .
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And people were asking why the top creature decided to jump in the water, I just thought I'd point out, it didn't, it never turned into a whale.
And I NEVER claimed that, again ("A transitional is not necessarily directly ancestral to the later organism").
You are right, Andrewsarchus is not a direct ancestor of the Basilosaurus. But in fact, their closest living relatives are the modern whales and cloven-hoofed animals. You obviously couldn't open the article, so I don't blame you.
But why has our brain developed farther than is needed for survival? Recorded history started some 10000 years ago, exactly what happened before that point it unknown. In the end everyone is left to their opinions, this is mine.
Actually, it hasn't. The more-developed humans killed off the less-developed human, an internal trigger that caused the evolution of the modern human brain.
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Forgot who posted this and sorry to bring it up so long after post, but it is pretty much proven that at the time of the dinosaurs extinction there was a meteor that hit and caused a thick layer of dust to form and cover the atmosphere. This led to a sever ice-age and did not allowed for plants to recieve sun for photosynthesis.
Pieces of the meteor have been discovered and aged to (around) the year of the exctintion of dinosaurs. The crater is on the Tunguska river in Siberia (i believe) and had the power of a 10-megaton bomb.
The proces started with a massive wave of fire that killed a lot of stuff. Then the dust and the cooling and the famine.
Actually, the Tunguska Explosion happened in 1909(?) and there was no crater. The hypothesized location of the dinosaur-killing asteroid's (not a comet) crater is in and around the Yucatan Peninsula, a massive impact dating to about 65 million years ago.
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because it's flawed. I'm not saying there is no evolution, I'm just pointing out errors. Evolution may be what God used as a means of creating life, I'm not debating that issue because I don't know for sure. If you really want some fun, go disprove God exists. Go dig up Sporky's old thread and have a hay-day with it yourself.
thats what you people say prove god exists , prove evolution works
If you think about how long we have been around, we have evolved a significant amount compared to other creatures, perhaps that puts us in a whole other theory of evolution. Say the existance of Earth was put on a one year scale. Humans didn't come along until late in the day on December 31. We have evolved that much, of a single cell organism (possibly), to what we are today. Imagine what we will be like in another 5,000 or so years.
Bacteria, viruses and insects evovle much faster than we do, its due in part to reproduction rate. Humans in 5000 years (if there are still humans in 5000 years of course...) will be different but the differences won't be as big as you thing (they will mostly differ because of a different diet and probably less physical activities). Medical science slows human evolution, has it can save many people who would have died without reproducing had they not received medical care (at birth or later). Of course in 5000 years we will have started since a long time to modify our gene pool by ourselves, so I guess what I said before won't be a problem.
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Yes, it may not even be possibly to study human evolution (from two thousand years ago and beyond the present). We're the things we're studying, and we have the power to control our own genetics. This wouldn't be scientifically valid and would be quite biased.
All we can do is continue working on anthropololgy and archaeology, continue looking for clues to how humans can to be here from earlier proto-humans. As opposed to throwing our arms in the air and screaming: "God did it!"
Hard work, research, and using logic will pay off. There is still much to learn.
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