Evolution

[.am0k]

No, I haven't read the whol thread but this has to be brought up, and dear god it may have been already brought up.

This is the basic battle of Physicists vs. Metaphysicists. One being totally concrete thinkers, the other of surreal thought. There is no way the two will ever agree on any form of this subject matter simply because of a few reasons:

1. Physical thinkers beleive that everything has to be proven. What can be done, must be seen, heard, and felt. Metaphysical thinkers believe that we, as humans, are unable to comprehend the possibilities of a fourth (proven now, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract) or fifth or sixth dimensions. We can't feel, see, prove, hear, or use any sense we don't know of to beleive in something that might be true.

2. Most aethiests are Physical thinkers. Most religious are Metphysical thinkers. Aethiests and Religious don't agree, why would Physical v. Metphysical thinkers?

3. Physicists take a complete history driven agenda as to proof. Metaphysists take the more psychological approach to things.

4. So physiscists think that meta's are ridiculous because they have no proof for what they want to show, while metaphysicist feels thast that the physicist is weakminded for being unable to comprehend the fact that there might be something out there that the human mind is unable to comprehend.

I see most all physicist people here, and being very one minded. You need to think like a Metaphysicist in order to understand both sides of the argument. Have you ever seen, felt, or heard an albino albana? Doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[SpiderGoat]

Originally Posted by .am0k

1. Physical thinkers beleive that everything has to be proven. What can be done, must be seen, heard, and felt. Metaphysical thinkers believe that we, as humans, are unable to comprehend the possibilities of a fourth (proven now, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract) or fifth or sixth dimensions. We can't feel, see, prove, hear, or use any sense we don't know of to beleive in something that might be true.

Scientists have been using fourth, fifth, n-dimensions for some time now, so how can they not 'comprehend the possibilities of"?

[!moof]

In truth, in metaphysics the physical world/experience is generally treated as a corrupted or partial manifestation of the ideal or total metaphysical world, or as our collective perception of the metaphysical world.

More important than that "debate" is many people are unable to differentiate between facts and truth. Truth is independent and generaly transcendent of fact. Fact is held by the chains of proof. You can prove a fact. You cannot prove a truth.

[Username66]

Originally Posted by Dreadnought[DK]

why? the tundra is not our natural environment?

Yeah, but its sure fun as hell to run in the nude, and even better if you find lake and skinny dip in-30 degrees wheater! You lose an entire inch off your gentitals! Ahhhhh.....life is good.....

[Username66]

Personly I belive in Darwin's Theory of evolution. Even ifyou don't believe in Darwin's theory, Scientists have found proof that humans have evolved over the eons. THey foundskelton's much like our own , bet yet different in many way's. THey have found sevral species, of humans Proto-Human, and Homo-Erectus. If this doesn't convince you, then Some of our reatives being alive today , might. Say for exaple Chimpanzee's , our closet realtive. Cimpazee's have intelict matcing , estamted , atcient human's, their hobbies and emotions are extremly simalr to ours( There have been some chimps seen to pay, most likely using food of some sort , to see a female chimps butt). Let alone thier bone structure is almost exactly like ours. Who can't say Darwin's right?

Chimps Rule!