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Originally Posted by !moof

4. How about this for a hypothesis? God created the Earth billions of years ago. As He is eternal, time is irrelevant for Him. Therefore, any time references regarding the Lord are irrational. After He created the Earth, he let it develop. Eventually, man emerged. God infused man with a spiritual being, represented by the Holy Spirit, which is what was meant by the phrase "made in God's own image".

Isn't that partially the "divine spark" theory?

Yes, but let's keep a discussion on that in a different thread.

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Originally Posted by crassus

Here is why i believe in full creation (6 days.) I firmly believe in believing in the bible word for word. Otherwise if u take one part out, you might as well throw the whole bible out. If God meant eons instead of days, he would have said eons, not days. I'm sure they had a word that meant longer than a day.

The entirety of the Bible cannot be taken word-for-word. There are plenty of believers who take parts as allegory and other parts as truth.

The belief that the Earth is flat -- for instance -- stemmed from the Biblical text about Satan taking Jesus to the highest mountain on earth so that he could look out and see all the kingdoms of the world at once. There could be no mountain high enough for this purpose, even back then.

Interesting article here guys.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7539

Did humans evolve in fits and starts?

17:30 17 June 2005
NewScientist.com news service
Gaia Vince

Humans may have evolved during a few rapid bursts of genetic change, according to a new study of the human genome, which challenges the popular theory that evolution is a gradual process.

Researchers studying human chromosome 2 have discovered that the bulk of its DNA changes occurred in a relatively short period of time and, since then, only minor alterations have occurred......

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Originally Posted by Briareos

The bible needs to be taken literally. God wrote it and God is perfect. You cannot just ignore something from the bible you disagree with. You must accept all of it or not at all.

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Originally Posted by Ekips

The bible needs to be taken literally. God wrote it and God is perfect. You cannot just ignore something from the bible you disagree with. You must accept all of it or not at all.

This statement was ignorant.

God did not write the bible. Men wrote the bible. A lot of men, over a period of about 3000 years or so.

If you take everything written in the bible literally, then it has already been proven that God does not exist. So don't make the mistake in believing two year old philosophy. The earth is not flat. The earth was built over a period of billions of years, and life evolved on earth over a period of billions of years. You can either accept this or you can't. Your cjoice. Even the previous Pope has said not everything should be taken literally in the bible.

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Originally Posted by Ekips

The bible needs to be taken literally. God wrote it and God is perfect. You cannot just ignore something from the bible you disagree with. You must accept all of it or not at all.

1) No, the Bible was written by people, who were at best inspired by God. A group of people decided which books to include and exclude from the Bible. Men -- imperfect men put the Bible together.

2) What is it with some Christians and extremes? So because I don't think everything in the bible is literal, I should just ignore all the stuff that makes sense even to good people who aren't Christians? Hogwash! It's misguided folks like you who drive people from the church. As you get older I hope you learn to see that this is a world full of greys -- there are very few absolutes.

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Originally Posted by X-C

I can't believe he thinks that "god wrote the bible". The bible has been interpreted and re-interpreted by men over the course of history.

I dont believe in "God" so I do not believe he wrote the bible. I was just saying it's dumb to just forget about some parts of the bible because they don't make sense. If God existed why would he let a book written about him have false imformation.

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Originally Posted by Ekips

Wow, that's even worse coming from a non-believer.

Let me put your question another way. "Why does God allow anything bad to happen?"

One answer is that he made man with a will of his own, so that we wouldn't be puppets that say "I love you God" every time he pulls our strings. This way, people's love for him actually means something, because it is of our own free will. That same free will allows people to write whatever they want about God.

Make sense?

Of course the OT God used to wipe civilizations off the face of the earth if they made him too angry, but Jesus took care of that in the New Testament -- which brings up an interesting contradiction between the OT and the NT: If God is perfect (and the Bible is as well) then why did he change the rules in the middle of the game? The OT God is a legal and vengeful God. The NT God is all love and mercy, and there are far fewer grand miracles going on -- hmm.

Anyhow, I'm way off topic. My point is, although I reject certain parts of the bible, there are other parts that just make sense. I'm not talking about the miracles. I'm talking about things like "Let he who has no sin cast the first stone", "Love does not envy, it does not boast...". There is plenty of good wisdom in the bible. I don't even have to believe in God to recognize that.