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Old April 10th, 2005   #1
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Default Democrats whine yet again about election

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...aign_lessons_2

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Kerry: Trickery Kept Voters From Polls

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By MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writer

BOSTON - Many voters in last year's presidential election were denied access to the polls through trickery and intimidation, former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry told a voters' group Sunday.

"Last year too many people were denied their right to vote, too many who tried to vote were intimidated," the Massachusetts senator said at an event sponsored by the state League of Women Voters.

"There is no magic wand. No one person is going to stand up and suddenly say it's going to change tomorrow. You have to do that," he said.

Kerry supporters have charged that voting irregularities in largely Democratic areas made it difficult for voters to cast ballots in the November election. A lawsuit in Ohio cited long lines and a shortage of voting machines in predominantly minority neighborhoods, but the Ohio Supreme Court dismissed the suit.

Kerry also cited examples Sunday of how people were duped into not voting.

"Leaflets are handed out saying Democrats vote on Wednesday, Republicans vote on Tuesday. People are told in telephone calls that if you've ever had a parking ticket, you're not allowed to vote," he said.

Kerry has never disputed the outcome of election, saying voting irregularities did not involve enough votes to change the result. Bush won the pivotal state of Ohio by 118,000 votes, giving him enough electoral votes to win re-election.

Bush supporters have denied using voter intimidation tactics to keep people from going to the polls. A call to the Republican National Committee media office was not immediately returned Sunday.

Earlier this year, Kerry joined Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., in filing voting reform legislation. The Count Every Vote Act would create a federal holiday for voting, require paper receipts for votes and authorize $500 million to help states upgrade voting systems and equipment.

Congress' investigative agency, the Government Accountability Office, has also begun looking into the handling of provisional ballots and malfunctions of voting machines. The study could lead to changes in the election process.

Kerry, using crutches as he recovers from knee surgery, suggested the United States should spend as much time promoting democracy at home as it does abroad in countries like Iraq.

"We need to go about the business of making our own democracy in America work better," he said.

I love this part:
"We need to go about the business of making our own democracy in America work better"

meaning

"We need to go abot making it easier for Democrats to win".

I think Kerrys' whining is worthy of the democratic national seal picture:

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Default Re: Democrats whine yet again about election

IMO both candidates sucked. Bush is ...

And Kerry is .



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Default Re: Democrats whine yet again about election

I thought the South Park episode where the kids had to choose between a Giant Douche and a Turd Sandwhich (an obvious metsphor for the elections) hit it right on the head. But the election was 5 months ago. Bush was inaugraited (sp). Bush won. And by a good amount, something like 60 40. Kerry lost. He needs to accept it. Be a man and move on. Try again in 08. Not like he can win but he can damn sure try.


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I love this part:
"We need to go about the business of making our own democracy in America work better"

meaning

"We need to go abot making it easier for Democrats to win".
Have you any idea what you are saying?

You are openly admitting here that the Republikan party did cheat in the elections...

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Default Re: Democrats whine yet again about election

The rep's did cheat/intimidate/bribe ect, so we let them get away with it? Oh ya, the rep's have people already in high places so they can get away with it.

the election was very close, though not as close as the last election

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Nite, its more like Bush 52% - 48% kerry(maybe 49).

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This discussion is troubling. Good, but troubling. By assuming, I say that not one person on this forum was party to any cheating during the election, and furthermore, none of us seems to have any evidence to make a valid decision on that subject anyway. Talk of it is silly. Partisanship of any kind is inherently bad for the system, but is also inherent in the system -- it can not be avoided. Nonetheless, we must ensure that we reserve some measure of respect for our opponents, and Kerry claiming that the only reason he lost the election was cheating on the part of Republicans is downright foolish. Kerry needs to seriously consider that he lost because he could not furnish what the majority of this country desired at the time. His arrogance shows that, while Bush may or may not be a perfect candidate, he was the best available alternative.


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See my previous response to your previous thread about bitching. Someone wants to try and improve democracy, and you laugh at them for no other reason than they are the people you didn't vote for. The things proposed seem like good ideas to me, but that doesn't matter to you. You disagree with them simply for the sake of disagreement; you may not even have any interest in the subject itself, just how many jokes you can make about the other party.


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See my previous response to your previous thread about bitching. Someone wants to try and improve democracy, and you laugh at them for no other reason than they are the people you didn't vote for. The things proposed seem like good ideas to me, but that doesn't matter to you. You disagree with them simply for the sake of disagreement; you may not even have any interest in the subject itself, just how many jokes you can make about the other party.
Mr. Matt, your response is well-founded, and well-understood. However, before attack NiteStryker for his opinions, find out if he knows anything about what's really going on.

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not required. you've done this too many times already. use one of your own multiple threads.

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