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View Poll Results: Are domestic animals cruelty?
Yes, Animals never have been evolved to this in a million years. 0 0%
No. I show apathy upon animals therefore, it is not cruelty. 8 72.73%
What? I dont understand? 3 27.27%
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Old December 12th, 2004   #1
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Last night at my brothers 22nd birthday party... Me and my brother had a very interesting disscussion about Domestic Animals. I know we cant do anything about this, and i know it is too late for the animals to go free instead of domestic but heres the interesting thoughts about domestic animals that you might've never thought of before. Doemestic animals have not been prepared to be domestic over the last million years of evolution. Dogs have 4 legs so they can run through the fields and canyons and chase down prey not play frisbee for an hour a week. Parrots have wings so they can fly over jungles and accross the vast wild landscapes, not just sit, wings cut away, in little cages, with nothing to do to maintain their spirits but to sing to themselves and learn meaningless fragments of less musical languages. Cats have claws so they can fight and hunt and sharpen them anywhere they choose, they have testicles and ovaries so they can mark territory and go into heat and make love and raise kittens; cut all these off and keep them locked inside, and they get grouchy, pathetic, fat for lack of anything to do but to eat standard-issue canned food they cant even hunt. Domestic animals are expected to be the vourt jesters and courtesans of the modern householdm to provide entertainment and surrogate comunity, and their lives and even bodies are adjusted accordingly. Their role is not to be animals, in all the wondrous complexity that entails, but simply to be toys.
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It isn't cruelty. We are pretty much saving them. In the industrialized world where humans take reign, animals have no place wondering our streets. They will just get hunted down, killed, ran over, or treated badly. It isn't anything we can help, though it is our faults.
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Our cats about 17 years old now
Shes been run over twice

I fear that if she was out in the wild she would be dead

We give her food a place to sleep adn some attention when she wants it
I dont think thats cruelty

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there's nothing wrong with domestic animals...

I love "my" cat very much. infact, it's really not my cat. all it does is come here for some shelter, food and attention. it comes and goes when it pleases.

true, there are stupid people that keep their pets inside the house 24/7 and don't let them do anything or don't pay enough attention to them. in wich case, don't take a pet you jackass.

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good points, it is indeed a good deed to have those animals safe with us. However what im saying are the parts of how we feed them with human-made canned foods, we keep them in our society and houses. Animals were not supposed to be evolved into this you know? But other than that, We do help domestic animals alot.
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have wings so they can fly over jungles and accross the vast wild landscapes
Do you have any idea what your talking about? A parrot won't fly more then a few miles or it will die unless it stops and rests. They get tire really fast

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I see your point about parrots. They aren't allowed to fly around and such. But who the hell wants a parrot? All they do is sit there are poop.

Cats and dogs have been kept as pets for a long time. Not all cats become fat when they are kept indoors. Consider those who live on farms where their cats and dogs are allowed to roam free and come indoors whenever they want (Indoor/outdoor pets). Even these animals can become fat (overfeeding). The problem with animals becoming fat is not caused by their being made into pets, but by stupid owners that feed them too much.

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We have been domesticating cats for centuries now, possibly even for a millinium.
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Default Re: Concerning Domestic Animals

Keeping domesticated animals is only cruel if one does not take proper care of them and allow them nearly every freedom that they would experience if they were not domesticated.

My dog not only has a very nice place to sleep, but she is treated very well by my family and friends and she recieves a daily walk (sometimes more than one) around our neighborhood.

Now keeping a caged bird, which is another example of a pet and one of mine, is a possibly case of cruely, depending on one's individual perspective. Yes, mine is kept in a cage most of the time with an occasional outing, but we are at a bit of a stalemate regarding what else to do with her. She is most used to the environment of our home, and there is usually not enough time to accomodate desires for attention that she might have. For the time being, we simply feed her, clean her cage once a week and give her attention when absolutely necessary.

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Default Re: Concerning Domestic Animals

Now really. Do you think a Black Labador could live in the wilderness? Hell no.
Or a domestic cat, hell no. Now, a hard core bad ass cat like a bob cat or a lion, thats a different story.
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