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Phoenix_22 November 29th, 2004 07:23 PM

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Ah... No more freedom of speech, just read this article and tell me what you think.

http://msn-cnet.com.com/Security+off..._home&GT1=5750



My fellow posters, rejoice!

The CIA is taking away MORE freedoms.

Mihail November 29th, 2004 07:26 PM

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That's what happens when americans decide it's okay to give up "some" freedom

Cataphract November 29th, 2004 07:29 PM

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"Free people do not give up their personal liberties in the name of security."
-Osama bin Laden

Mihail November 29th, 2004 07:32 PM

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"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ---Benjamin Franklin

Μαjïç MushrøøM November 29th, 2004 08:10 PM

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Many people are too short-sided to realize that, sadly.

Although I do not participate in chat rooms, I think the fact that the goverment is being allowed to do this is disgusting. I agree that if people are too passive and/or too ignorant to be conscious of freedoms that they are being denied, and take no action against it, then they are getting what they deserve.

Ensign Riles November 29th, 2004 08:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix_22
The CIA is taking away MORE freedoms.

That isn't taking away anything. You can say whatever you want through the program, it's just being monitored. What's so bad about that?

It's funny because these are the same people who are the ones complaining about safety and another terrorist attack. Seriously, there aren't many people on these forums who are "important" enough that are going to be the first target a terrorist group is going to strike. :n0e:

Μαjïç MushrøøM November 29th, 2004 08:33 PM

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Many people consider one of their freedoms to be privacy in a setting such as that.

Phoenix_22 November 29th, 2004 08:42 PM

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Sorry, i meant they were invading our freedom of privacy.

first it was the e-mail screenings

Now it is spying in chat rooms.

Roarthealmighty November 29th, 2004 09:19 PM

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um, wouldn't it be just as affective to have a CIA guy make name and just hang out in the chat room? I think you guys are makin a fuss about it because it says "Spy" and "Moniter"...

WiseBobo November 29th, 2004 09:45 PM

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Catch those Pedophiles I say.

I don't believe that "pwn" or "asl" is going to cause a red alert any time soon

Mr. Matt November 30th, 2004 01:32 AM

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Police have been going into chat rooms under cover for a while now, to try and keep an eye out for potential paedophiles and other chat room related idiocy. You lost your 'privacy' a long time ago so far as chat rooms are concerned -- not that you had any in the first place...

X-C November 30th, 2004 03:50 AM

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The internet never was a private thing, anyone can watch what you are doing. Get over it. I bet if terrorist do use the computer to communicate, they use I-M's or e-mail.

osamabomba69: d00d we rocked teh werld trade center!!1

americankiller666: haha yeh d00d u fukcin rok man!

LIGHTNING [NL] November 30th, 2004 04:38 AM

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You think we've got some CIA members on GamingForums? :D

X-C November 30th, 2004 04:41 AM

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Yeah, they are going to arrest you. Ha!

Admiral Donutz November 30th, 2004 05:12 AM

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Err is this going to help? stop the terrorists? NO

The terrorists won't meet in public chatrooms, they rather meet on private chatrooms/forums or other comunication systems. The terrorists won't post their plans on the net, maybe just come in to contact (and then using some nobish l33t style as posted above) and meet face to face or via some other communication system to speak anout the details (what about the go 'oll hand written letter? Or are they screening every letter that is send (either national or international) too?

They won't catch or stop terrorists with this, and besides if this would scare terrorists (it won't) won't they move to foreign forums that does not accept the CIA spying in their country (holland for example probly does allow CIA spying on dutch territory/servers :( ) (where the CIA can't spy upon them , not legally anyway).

This measure only hurts the civs not the terrorists if you ask me.

Mr. Matt November 30th, 2004 05:15 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LIGHTNING [NL]
You think we've got some CIA members on GamingForums? :D

Absolutely not. :lookaround:

/me whispers something into his collar then looks around innocently

Admiral Donutz November 30th, 2004 05:25 AM

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Don't worry people, Mr. Matt doesn't work for the CIA, he would never do that.

He works for the koala party! :eek: I gave him a drug and he told me all about it recently.

Napalm November 30th, 2004 11:18 AM

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Ehh, well lets see, it is very wrong for them to be doing that, but if you arent doing anything illegal...then why are you worrying?

Col Jimmy Emeric November 30th, 2004 01:12 PM

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if they've been monitering chatrooms whats keeping them from monitering forums?

Cataphract November 30th, 2004 01:16 PM

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Ehh, well lets see, it is very wrong for them to be doing that, but if you arent doing anything illegal...then why are you worrying?

That is just an excuse. It is a common conservative concern that the US is rapidly becoming a police state capable of suspending people's personal liberties. Why not listen to our anti-Bush conservative counterparts?

m0nkay November 30th, 2004 01:22 PM

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If you aren't doing anything wrong, why do you care? Seems like you're complaining for the sake of complaining. :uhm:

Peeping Tom November 30th, 2004 01:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ensign Riles
That isn't taking away anything. You can say whatever you want through the program, it's just being monitored. What's so bad about that?

It's funny because these are the same people who are the ones complaining about safety and another terrorist attack. Seriously, there aren't many people on these forums who are "important" enough that are going to be the first target a terrorist group is going to strike. :n0e:

You dont seem to understand the problem. The problem is that you will not always be able to trust your government. If some day people who speak up begin to disappear, you can thank big brother for that. Always watching and all knowing, they will know your opinions, your personality, your lifestyle, and from that determine if you are a political threat. This is no reason to buy a gun, certainly not if preventative measures such as free speech are in place, because it is assumed that if people become aware of a problem, the good people will step up in order to stop the bad ones. Of course, this assumes the masses know what's best for the masses.

Ensign Riles November 30th, 2004 01:52 PM

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That's why I don't trust them in the first place. I just don't see what you could possibly be saying that is "legal" that has to absolutely be private. Never in your life will there be a time you aren't being watched. Heck, entire cities aren't safe. As I recall the CIA wanted to test the effects of LSD on entire cities by lacing the water supplies. Back in WWII I think the government sprayed an entire city in California to see how effective bio-warfare could be.

HeadShock November 30th, 2004 01:57 PM

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damm i live in england so they can't do jack to me

Roarthealmighty November 30th, 2004 02:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkay
If you aren't doing anything wrong, why do you care? Seems like you're complaining for the sake of complaining. :uhm:

They are.

I think they just brought this up to start more stuff about bush's policys.

Blank Stare November 30th, 2004 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix_22
Sorry, i meant they were invading our freedom of privacy.

first it was the e-mail screenings

Now it is spying in chat rooms.

Good, i am sick of bots in public chatrooms going "FREE HOT PORN! CLICK HERE TO SEE BUSTY BABES NOW!!!!!"

Cataphract November 30th, 2004 03:13 PM

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That's why I don't trust them in the first place. I just don't see what you could possibly be saying that is "legal" that has to absolutely be private. Never in your life will there be a time you aren't being watched. Heck, entire cities aren't safe. As I recall the CIA wanted to test the effects of LSD on entire cities by lacing the water supplies. Back in WWII I think the government sprayed an entire city in California to see how effective bio-warfare could be.

Just because the government has taken away some of our privacy doesn't mean that the government therefore has the right to introduce further limitations of privacy. In fact, I'd recommend taking away some (emphasis on "some") of the existing measures that sacrifice privacy for security.

I think they just brought this up to start more stuff about bush's policys.

It has nothing to do with politics, dude. At least not for me.

Scijox November 30th, 2004 03:43 PM

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Interesting, republicans are supposed to believe in non-government control. Why are we letting terrorists take away our freedoms? First it's chat rooms next its jail without a trial.

Peeping Tom November 30th, 2004 08:03 PM

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It already is. They can hold you without notifying anyone as you are "Involved in an investigation pertaining to terrorism".

FactionRecon November 30th, 2004 08:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by X-C
osamabomba69: d00d we rocked teh werld trade center!!1

americankiller666: haha yeh d00d u fukcin rok man!


:lol: :clap:

Chubbs December 1st, 2004 07:13 PM

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:lolpoint: hehe osamabomba69. good one :lolpoint:


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