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Re: The 2004 Election Update Thread

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WTF?

He hasn't won a prize X-C, and this isn't a clan match!

This decision by the American people is going to have very real consequences, not only for America, but for the rest of the world. Trust me, I dare say that if the US president's decisions had absoultely no effects outside of America's borders then the rest of the world might not care so much, or at all.

However, US foreign policy and its policies towards climate change and pollution have major (possibly dire) consequences for the World as a whole. If he picks a needless fight against the wrong people then I hope you will still be laughing when the consequences become abundantly clear.

EDIT: Wow, Mr. Matt... You've typed 3 messages in the space it took me to type one pretty much saying the same thing as you! :D

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I care so much because Kerry was planning on raising taxes substantially for everyone. He cannot do so. Bush will be raising taxes, but not as high as Kerry would have.

Either way, Kerry and Bush will have both screwed over some more stuff in the world. It isn't like Kerry is a saint just because he isn't Bush.

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Originally Posted by X-C

IIRC, Kerry was planning on raising taxes on people above a certain threshold, so the middle classes would be paying less but those that earn 'silly money' will be paying more... Is that not so? That's what I understood...

You're right that neither candidate is perfect and it's a case of the lesser of two evils. It seems (so far) that the majority of the American voters see that as Bush, but the rest of the world sees it as otherwise.

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Kerry is a liar. It is impossible to complete the programs he was suggesting without taxing every American in America. So either he is lying about these "purdy" programs, or he is lying about raising taxes, which he voted to do so 98 times.

Democrats have a history of raising taxes.

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Originally Posted by M1GarandSharpShooter

AS OF RIGHT NOW! 6:00PM EST

BUSH: 269
KERRY: 242

YOU LIBRAL PIGS HAD UR YEAR OF BASHING US REPUBLICANS SO ALL I CAN SAY IS GOOD GAME, 4 MORE YEARS! :0wned: :0wned: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

You are watching fox? hahaha

accoirding to CNN and NOS (nr. 1 dutch news program/org):

Bush: 254
Kerry: 252

Bush is almost certain to win but not with the number you "objective" fox channel says.

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Haha, it makes me smile when I know I am going to get to look at the Europeans faces tommorow on the news. They are going to cry on the streets like babies

. Actually no, i'm going to be prety pissed and then start pittying the US citizens for dooming themselfs by electing bush and his suicidal foreign policy. The pro. of not having the USA at out back will be that europe will "learn" to stand on its own and go its own way.

Lets talk again when the US lays in ruins and europe is stronger then ever before.

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Fox news does not have those numbers. They have the same as every other station. Doesn't matter though, they should just make Kerry 0 and Bush 1,000,000 because Kerry cannot win. It is impossible.

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Originally Posted by X-C

Once Bush is in office, anything and everything you say about him won't matter to the republicans on this forum. Because not only do we not have to defend him, we could care less what stupid mistakes he made because he got eight years! So while you sit and bitch about his policies for the next four years, expecting a rise out of the right wing, we will be laughing in our chairs because "we" won. Again.

just awesome man, you're really supporting the image of the rusted pick-up-driving redneck, eager to shoot everyone crossing his terretory just for the heck of it. (yeah, i know, it's your "law-given right" and stuff)

damn, americans like you DEFINATELY need a war on your very ground instead of just sending your troops wherever you look good and polished. you never experienced that before, did you?

sorry for getting so low and offensive, but after reading such posts, it's gotta be very difficult to resist for every half-wise educated person here.

-rai

P.S.:

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Originally Posted by X-C

Democrats have a history of raising taxes.

think not just about yourself once in a while. your affecting more than your land of the braves with your vote, frankly.

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Everyone needs to remember that XC is a youngster and he doesnt represent all Americans / Republicans.... I thought he posted a week or two ago... I am leaving I have to much to do.... :uhm: Whats he doing back.. I think we need to get AzH in here and explain to him the issue of being a child and seeking attention...

And XC why are you jumping to a premature conclusion.. All the ballots have not been counted..... Even Bush isnt pronouncing he has won......

XC... :n0e:

Peace................. VONNER

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Originally Posted by X-C

Well, if he doesn't get in then you won't know whether he was lying or not as he won't be given the opportunity to prove he was or prove otherwise...

Here's something I found on another forum that I thought may be of interest here...

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Originally Posted by fitzpas

Some interesting opinions (that I am not expressing as fact, or my opinion) expressed via Metafilter - should provide a nutritious exilir for conspiracy theorists....

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"...on several swing states, and EVERY STATE that has EVoting but no paper trails has an unexplained advantage for Bush of around +5% when comparing exit polls to actual results.

In EVERY STATE that has paper audit trails on their EVoting, the exit poll results match the actual results reported within the margin of error.

So we have MATCHING RESULTS for exit polls vs. voting with audits

vs.

A 5% unexplained advantage for Bush without audits.

http://www.democraticunderground.co...ess=132x1295396

....and the head of Diabold (who make these machines) was in the news in August 2003,

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The head of a company vying to sell voting machines in Ohio told Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines03/0828-08.htm

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Also, some of the exit polls that the "calling" of states is based upon also seemed to suffer some Orwellian fate.

http://www.dailykos.com/comments/20...30/8885/463#463

So, there we go. Something for all of the anti-bush theorists to have a chew upon.