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Re: Christianity - Religion of violence?

d.sporky has stated that all non christians go to hell ;)

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Originally Posted by elros

d.sporky has stated that all non christians go to hell ;)

So? That's what my religion says...

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Call me "niave" if you want, but that statement is just plain wrong. No where in the bible does it say that people that don't believe have to be killed. Christianity is a religion based on forgiveness and on love for your feloow humans. Some people exploit religion, but that does not mean it's the religions fault.
Maybe you should read the bible once, cause you obviously have no clue what religion is all about.

well put sir, very well put indeed. :nodding:

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Jesus did not perform miracles he was a conman that's why he was crusified. Think about it if he did all these miracles and could prove he was the son of god whay was he punished? Simple he wasn't.

Like mr. lightening said, try reading the Bible, you might just understand a little of what you're talking about. Jesus came to the world to die, that was his purpose. He did perform miracles, the pharasies (sp?) didn't want their power and authority taken away from them so they killed him.

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maybe quran is like that , every relegious book in the world is abused by fanatics

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I thought Catholic Christians were the only christians that said every one goes to hell Except Catholics...

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Ok i HAVE read the bible. It's a story book nothing more,fantasy make believe.

And i will call you naive sir. This is generlized statment. NO other religon feels they should push there veiws on people, like christanity. This same attitude caused deaths of many innocent people through out the ages. There's no dening that. It's fact. I should point out i don't think all christians are bad. I respect what you believe. I was raised in the christian faith. So i know what all the story's are.

The bible has been twisted and distored by the hand of man. If you could read some of the REAL hebrew text, you'd think differant.

But if you believe it or not the christian religon was founded totally on fear.

Do you believe in god? No. Boom

Do you believe in god? Yes. Do you belive in MY god? No Boom

This is why the christian religon is the most practiced FEAR.

This was the topic of this thread so any argument you have needs to prove to me how these statements are false.

Agian don't wanna get anyone red,just a debate i'll take your statemnets openly. Iask you do the same for me as well.:)

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Originally Posted by Bloodjunky213

Christians have been responsible for more murding in history of life than hitler.

Adolph Hitler 1889-1945
History of life 4599997996 BC - present

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Ged my point being that two murders is too many. For what the christians believe. Make valid statements please.

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Originally Posted by Bloodjunky213

Make valid statements please.

If you wish points made to be valid in relationship to your argument, then you must structure said argument in such a way as your meaning becomes readily apparent.
Please be more precise.

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Ged my point being that two murders is too many. For what the christians believe.

Coming back to my above point; which two murders in specific?

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Ok have you read my first two posts? Second i'm not comparing the time span. No crap hitler lived a lot shorter period. I figured that would be a given:rolleyes:

Second The point you so readily missed was In my veiw the christian religon HAS been responsible for killing people the argument was that it hassen't. This was a form of backing up my statement.

Here's examples since you missed them: Holy Wars,Salem Witch Burnings,Massacre of native americans,Massacre of pageans.

I'm sure you'll have ?'s I'll be here

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Anyway, I think the only religion I see any value in for me personally is Wicca. The Wiccan rede is short, simple, and logical. It basically says do what you will, as long as you don't harm or intentionally manipulate another person.

Plus, I like that it's brand of spirituality is more based around nature and the universe than moral codes, legends(noah's ark, adam and eve etc.), and deities. Although, there are 'deities' in a sense in Wicca, the God and the Goddess. Really these beings are more allegorical and represent the duality of nature, order and chaos, masculine and femine(hence God and Goddess), etc.

Their holiday's are really structured around the seasons. The solstices(sp?), and the equinoxes.

Unfortunately, just because it seems good does not make it the truth.

I tolerate your decision, but be warned, the evil one decieves.

This does not mean I do not tolerate Wicca or any religion like that (nor that you are a devil worshiper). Just be wary of things that are too good to be true.

In brutally honest truth, Satan will do anything to decieve you, including good. All he wants is your soul though. Again, I am not calling Wicca satanism, but just be wary! I was taught and learned that Satan uses avenues like these to take your soul. Be wary of lies, examine it before you believe. And again I am not saying that you belief is bad, believe whatever you want! Just make sure it is the truth.

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But if you believe it or not the christian religon was founded totally on fear.

We are taught to fear God, but not in the way you think of fear. When we fear God, we respect him, not cower in some hole afraid to get struck by lightning. In other words, when we mean we fear God, we mean to respect him and recognise who and what he is and what he does and is doing.

Yes, religion does instill fear in others (real fear) and has probably used as a tool of fear. And yes, evil has been done in the name of christianity. But, this is due to human nature and falliability, not our religion or belief. Again, nobody is perfect.

It is our core beliefs that define our belief, not our actions. This is true for ANY religion or belief.