If thread continues to be spammed up by incessant bickering, the punishment will be harsh.
I'm tired of this crap already.
OnT: Vlad, can you infact prove that the bible is fictional?
I am not asking people to back up the bible, rather unfounded claims like 'god is gay'. If you can find proof then fine, but if not, dont post it.
First of all, I didnt say that god is gay. I dont know his/her sexual preference. Secondly, you have a double standard. Religious people can make claims without backing them up, like that God exists, and bible is written by him, yet I am required to provide proof of god's inexistence. You are biased sir
First of all, I didnt say that god is gay. I dont know his/her sexual preference. Secondly, you have a double standard. Religious people can make claims without backing them up, like that God exists, and bible is written by him, yet I am required to provide proof of god's inexistence. You are biased sir
Did I say that you said god was gay? I was using an obviously idiotic example.
Religous claims like 'god exists' i would say, are backed up by the bible, and miracles and other such artifacts etc.
If you can disprove this 'evidence' I.E. you have proof the bible is a story, then post it.
Consequently, if someone has evidence the bible is dead cert. 100% fact, then they post that as well.
Why do you need proof that it is real. Can't you just have faith? In reading all of these posts, this is my belief: True christians are not violent. Killing is against the bible and it is dumb for someone to kill because they don't like killing. We are taught that people can make their own decisions but we must tell them of God's truth. I do not, and we should not, force our beliefs on others but rather tell them about it and let them make up their own mind. We only try to save others because we care about them, not because we want to force everyone to act a certain way.
It takes only ONE thing to be a christian. You must accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, nothing else. We are not require to go to church, read the Bible, harass others with other beliefs, act a certain way, dress a certain way, cause terrorism because somebody is not doing what we like them to do, etc. We do what we do to honor God, and what I mean by this is the good things we do (what you would expect a christian to generally do). Those who kill and cause terorrism in the name of Christ are not honoring God in doing that and are not true Christians.
I tolerate any religion. We are taught to try to tell others the good news but not force them into it. I don't care what religion you are, you are a person to me. We are taught to love everyone, friends and enemies (and i am not implying that anyone of you are an enemy), believers and nonbelievers.
And yes we are not perfect! Nobody is! If we tried to be perfect, we would kill ourselves (everyone would)! We instead try to live a good and righteous life but we should not try to be perfect. Jesus died so we can live and be free of sin. You can do anything you want. This does not mean that you should accept christ and then be a mass murder or something. That is using God. Those people are not true christians.
I honestly believe that we believe in the same God too (except those that do not believe in God, which is ok), but we do it in a different way. Why fight! It is retarded. Just spread the truth and let others make up their own mind.
Christianity is NOT a violent religion, nor is any other religion. The reason people get violent about their religion is that they become intolerant and think that the only way to get others to convert is to scare them, or they can't stand these people and try to kill them. Passionate belief is good, but sometimes people express it in the wrong way. Christians that kill others for their belief are not martyrs, they are intolerant. Spread the word and be friends, even if they want to be enemies. Thats as far as it should go.
prove that it wasn't. (I've turned into sporky... NOOOOOOOO!!!11!!1oneonetwotwoeleven!11)
but...but isn't that a good thing?
vlad: stop being ignorant, evey single religion in the world takes faith to believe. You cannot prove all christianities claims, yet you cannot disprove them. Christianity is a belief in whichthere is a supernatural being watching over earth, his creation. Can you prove that he is not there? No, so stop acting like it's a fact that he is not! Can we prove that he is there? Well this is where faith comes in. Remember, absense of proof is not proof of absense.
Very good post Killer Kyle.
This is my indictment of your beliefs
This is my indictment of what you hold dear
My eyes have seen the horrors that you
Commit in the name of your god
Your god is violence your god is unholy
This is quite good timing actually, recently in an RS lesson we were tlaking about Jesus being a (like a rebel outa star wars, i cant remember their names). But the main point was we were shown a picture of jesus with a hunting rifle over his back, and the analysis was that he would fight and kill for what he beleived was right. And also in the bible apparantly (although ive never read it) it says jesus went to a temple and there were gamblers and stiff out side and he started beating them up or somthing along those lines. So in a way chrisitinality is about violence as if god existed and he flooded everyone etc. dosent that show violence for what he beleives?
EDIT: and Kyle, isent it ironic that in your name you call yourself a killer?
Last edited by Mr_Kittles; October 18th, 2004 at 08:42 AM.
This is quite good timing actually, recently in an RS lesson we were tlaking about Jesus being a (like a rebel outa star wars, i cant remember their names). But the main point was we were shown a picture of jesus with a hunting rifle over his back, and the analysis was that he would fight and kill for what he beleived was right. And also in the bible apparantly (although ive never read it) it says jesus went to a temple and there were gamblers and stiff out side and he started beating them up or somthing along those lines. So in a way chrisitinality is about violence as if god existed and he flooded everyone etc. dosent that show violence for what he beleives?
"Love you enemies, pray for those who persecute you, do good to those who spitefully use you." Sound like violence to you? "Thou shalt love the lord your God with all your heart soul and mind, and love your neighbor as yourself." Does that sound like violence?
didn't think so, those are two of the core messages in the Bible.
This is my indictment of your beliefs
This is my indictment of what you hold dear
My eyes have seen the horrors that you
Commit in the name of your god
Your god is violence your god is unholy
in no way did i mean that christianity is about violence, im saying that in the bible there re references to youre saviour preforming violent acts and sometimes condoning it, sorry if it came across wrong.
in no way did i mean that christianity is about violence, im saying that in the bible there re references to youre saviour preforming violent acts and sometimes condoning it, sorry if it came across wrong.
Oh that's quite alright, twas my bad really.
This is my indictment of your beliefs
This is my indictment of what you hold dear
My eyes have seen the horrors that you
Commit in the name of your god
Your god is violence your god is unholy
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