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mEkImIrMe September 12th, 2004 07:04 PM

Mysterious clouds in North Korea
 
Not sure if this was posted yet
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/asiapc...ast/index.html

Of course it was a friggin nuke. I wouldn't ever believe what this US Official had to say.

Anyway, anyone else agree that the US is just covering this up now so its not another Cold War?

FB-22 September 12th, 2004 07:18 PM

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Yeah, but a cold war with Korea wouldn't last too long. Their leaders getting old. Not like the U.S.S.R.

Spartan September 12th, 2004 07:22 PM

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The U.S. official said the cloud could be the result of a forest fire.
Why can't we come up with better lies? :lol:

mEkImIrMe September 12th, 2004 07:43 PM

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heh first they were sure it was a nuke, then they were sure it was a new bomb similar to the US's MOAB, and then they were sure it was a forest fire

Anlushac11 September 13th, 2004 12:46 AM

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Well it set off a mushroom cloud 2 miles wide and a story is circulating that a crater at the site is big enough to be seen from space.

If this were a nuke I would not expect the US to keep it hush, they would be screaming bloody murder to get world attention on the matter. I would also expect North Korea to announce the matter as a way of turning up the heat on South Korea, Japan, and the US.

!moof September 13th, 2004 03:59 AM

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1. Wasn't a nuke. No way that Korea would blow up a nuke and then not boast about it. It's not their style, the little show-offs.

2. The whole "forest fire" thing wasn't official U.S. stance. It was just Condi Rice speculating about the nature of the explosion.

Admiral Donutz September 13th, 2004 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by mEkImIrMe
heh first they were sure it was a nuke, then they were sure it was a new bomb similar to the US's MOAB, and then they were sure it was a forest fire

worse, worser, worst... :p It has to be somekind of WMD though, it not a simple forest fire (or explosion in somekind of factory). Normal explosions and forest fires dont create a mushroom shaped cloud...

Octovon September 13th, 2004 04:25 AM

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I just read up in the news, it appears it was a massive intentional demolition of the entire side of a mountain to build a hydroelectric plant. It must have been a lot of TNT to make an explosion with a 3km-wide mushroom cloud. I would think it would be a bigger explosion than the Halifax explosion of 1917, which was the largest man-made explosion before Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

North Korea Blows The Sh*T out of a Mountain

X-C September 13th, 2004 04:34 AM

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Damnit, for a while I was hoping this would spark off some kind of world war. Oh well, way to crash my hopes and dreams Octo.

Octovon September 13th, 2004 04:59 AM

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Its my job X-C, its my job :D

I dont really buy it though, that would take a hell of a lot of TNT or other explosive to blow up a mountain. It took 5 tons of Benzol, 300 artillery rounds, 122,960 pounds of guncotton, 2300 tons of Pitric Acid, and 4,661,794 pounds [2,115t] of TNT to make 2.5km² of Halifax disappear and windows be shattered up to 100km away. I watched a drama about the Halifax Explosion and they recreated [digitally] the explosion and it would have made a mushroom cloud as well, so them North Koreans would have needed a hell of a lot of explosives to make a mountain go boom.

Master of Reality September 13th, 2004 02:20 PM

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why is the US defending north korea....theyre hostile...and the ones with nukes. then US has the nerve to say 'lets bomb iran' . how does a forest fire make a mushroom cloud?! christ.

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Zab September 13th, 2004 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Großadmiral Dönitz
worse, worser, worst... :p It has to be somekind of WMD though, it not a simple forest fire (or explosion in somekind of factory). Normal explosions and forest fires dont create a mushroom shaped cloud...

Normal bombs can create mushroom clouds. We just talked about it in physics today!

Octovon September 13th, 2004 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Master of Reality
why is the US defending north korea....theyre hostile...and the ones with nukes. then US has the nerve to say 'lets bomb iran' . how does a forest fire make a mushroom cloud?! christ.

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Maybe you havent read my post or the link I provided with it. The massive explosion was intentional. The North Koreans were demolishing part of the mountain so they could build a hydroelectric power station. They need this station because much of the country goes without power because of the lack of money and resources to power the power plants. That and the country is a shit-hole outside the capital, which is kept clean along with certain other places to create the image that the country is entirely clean and modern.

Master of Reality September 13th, 2004 02:43 PM

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ive heard that they take teens and they make them dig trenches....i dont know why though...

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Aeroflot September 13th, 2004 02:46 PM

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Ok, if nuclear war brakes out... I'm headin for a remote region in the southern Texas or even Mexico.

This is gonna be cool though. North Korea is gonna get it's ass kicked if they launch nukes.

!moof September 13th, 2004 02:54 PM

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Flot: go to Eastern Montana. It's the safest place in North America. Besides, North Korea can't hit us. The farthest they can hit is Japan.

Octovon September 13th, 2004 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by moof
Flot: go to Eastern Montana. It's the safest place in North America. Besides, North Korea can't hit us. The farthest they can hit is Japan.

Not really, they're newest missile is supposedly capable of hitting targets on the western American coast, forget what its called, something like 'improved Taepo-Dong' or something. Range is anywhere between 2,000-12,000km depending on number of stages and warhead.

!moof September 13th, 2004 03:47 PM

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Taepo-Dong 3 isn't supposed to be working until 2007, though.

Aeroflot September 13th, 2004 03:55 PM

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North Korea did get some new missiles though.

Mr. Matt September 13th, 2004 03:57 PM

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Anyway, anyone else agree that the US is just covering this up now so its not another Cold War?
No. And it wouldn't be a cold war, so much as a luke-warm war. Korea has a large army, and they like to shout how powerful they are, but a cold war remotely like 'THE' Cold War would cripple them. It didn't do Russia much good, and they were a super power.

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ive heard that they take teens and they make them dig trenches....i dont know why though...
People don't know the trenches are there. People fall in the trenches and get stuck. Koreans capture them and make them dig more trenches. Simple, no?

Dreadnought[DK] September 13th, 2004 04:39 PM

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it wasn't a nuke. the only thing that is keeping north korea alive is aid from china. they wouldn't detonate a nuclear device in china's back yard.


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