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X-C September 4th, 2004 04:14 PM

Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
As it turns out, Kerry's bet at winning is Bush himself. If Bush screws up in the next two months this might change, but things are looking our way! Take that democrats!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...wsweek_poll_dc

Double digit lead, oh yeah!

NiteStryker September 4th, 2004 05:03 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Thats funny as hell, after the dems convention, Kerry actually lost points, and now he has lost further!

Mabey Ahhnuld and Guiliani speaking for Bush really did help him...double digits is impressive

X-C September 4th, 2004 05:20 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Kerry is losing his touch now. He is getting nervous. Look at his recent speeches.

NiteStryker September 4th, 2004 05:23 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
desperation...hes shot his main gun, and its outta bullets, so now hes finding any spare ammo

Zab September 4th, 2004 05:23 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
That is one poll, a Newsweek one. It's not a Gallup one, or any other. There are polls that say Bush has a 5 point lead..and some 10. All polls are different, and you can't just use one.

NiteStryker September 4th, 2004 05:24 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zab
That is one poll, a Newsweek one. It's not a Gallup one, or any other. There are polls that say Bush has a 5 point lead..and some 10. All polls are different, and you can't just use one.

Ah. I knew you would discredit the poll somehow or another, leave it to you to think of any explination to defend a democrat

Zab September 4th, 2004 05:30 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NiteStryker
Ah. I knew you would discredit the poll somehow or another, leave it to you to think of any explination to defend a democrat

How can you base everything you say on one source?

X-C September 4th, 2004 05:43 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
He can't, nor can I. I just like the results here and felt like posting them. And this poll has a marginal error of four points, which either way still makes Bush in the lead.

You only have your parents or your friends parents to blame for making this man the democratic nominee. What a shame really, someone like Lieberman could be doing so much better. I wonder how Hillary Clinton is reacting to all this.

Zab September 4th, 2004 05:45 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Lieberman wouldn't be doing better, do you know why? He doesn't appeal to the mainstream. He was one of the reasons Gore lost in 2000, well lost the electorate. He should be the President by popular vote.

But anyways, Lieberman would not be a good choice.

X-C September 4th, 2004 05:46 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Oh well, I still like him better then Kerry.

NiteStryker September 4th, 2004 05:53 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
I like a rock better than Kerry.

HIliary for president? Thats some scary sh*t ur sayin...

Zab September 4th, 2004 05:53 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-C
Oh well, I still like him better then Kerry.

Ok...but you'd stil vote Bush..:lol:

_masterchief117_ September 4th, 2004 07:13 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
who wouldnt ? bush owns

Spyder F-16 September 4th, 2004 11:48 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NiteStryker
I like a rock better than Kerry.

HIliary for president? Thats some scary sh*t ur sayin...

Oh yes...

If Hillary becomes president, I'll bet you she'll make damn sure all men are lowly slaves...

NiteStryker September 5th, 2004 08:48 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
You may be more accurate then you kno....

She will hike taxes up beyond belief. She has been flip floppin like Kerry for special interest groups, buying votes from a junkload of people. Worst care, I hope Kerry wins so that she wont be able to run until 2012, and she will be too old.

Zab September 5th, 2004 09:55 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NiteStryker
You may be more accurate then you kno....

She will hike taxes up beyond belief. She has been flip floppin like Kerry for special interest groups, buying votes from a junkload of people. Worst care, I hope Kerry wins so that she wont be able to run until 2012, and she will be too old.

See, Kerry isn't that bad when you think about it in the grand scale of things. :lol: So the choice is really, Kerry or Hillary? :lol:

X-C September 5th, 2004 11:14 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zab
See, Kerry isn't that bad when you think about it in the grand scale of things. :lol: So the choice is really, Kerry or Hillary? :lol:

However, you are making the assumption that Hillary WILL win come 2008 if Bush wins 2004. I do not think she will win. I actually think she has zero chance of winning. First off republicans hate her, and there are a lot of republicans. And then you have the independant voters. You really think she has anything to offer to turn on the independant voters? I don't think so. And THEN you even have democrats who dislike her. She cannot win. She can run though, but she probably wouldn't make it past the primaries.

Octovon September 5th, 2004 12:26 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
In my opinion, you cant trust pre-election polls. There were 5 major pollsters trying to predict the outcome of the Canadian election in June and none of them were close. They expected that the Conservative Party would equal or surpass the Liberals, but that only helped the Liberals because everyone was afraid of the 'what if' the Conservatives were in power. In the end, the Liberals got even more votes, but only a few shy of the majority government. Also, the Bloc Quebecois werent exepected to win 90%+ of Quebec seats, and they did. So in the end, just wait and see, because not all polls are accurate and some people wait until the last moment to choose who to vote for.

-DarthMaul- September 5th, 2004 12:47 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
they need to put up howard dean as candidate of democrats.

-Logic-Is-A-Virtue- September 5th, 2004 02:33 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
If Hillary ran Republicans would come out of the woodwork just to vote against her. She would be crushed under the weight of her own bullshit. There are also people who think that women are unfit for leadership positions because they think to emotionally and there are a lot more than you think. I know some good women leaders but most women aren't good leaders (definately not Hillary).

Trojan_Ripper September 5th, 2004 06:07 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Octovon
some people wait until the last moment to choose who to vote for.


That certain sum (waiting to decide) decided Thursday night.

In today’s world there is no waiting until the last moment, "that’s what killed Skerry in this election"…. amongst other asshat stumbles.

Zab September 5th, 2004 06:08 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
There are always procrastinators..and people who decide at the last minute..that never changes.

Trojan_Ripper September 5th, 2004 06:11 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
But their vote is wasted and never counts....check prior elections. Bush has it wrapped no matter what happens at home or abroad!

Zab September 5th, 2004 06:13 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
I sure hope not! :lol: Don't always be too over confident..might get your hopes up...

Trojan_Ripper September 5th, 2004 06:36 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zab
I sure hope not! :lol: Don't always be too over confident..might get your hopes up...

Got to be confident to have hope in anything :lol: Zab. Over confident never....hopes have been up since last month..."feelin good man" feelin good!

NiteStryker September 5th, 2004 07:11 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zab
See, Kerry isn't that bad when you think about it in the grand scale of things. :lol: So the choice is really, Kerry or Hillary? :lol:

God, thats like death by firing squad or hanging

X-C September 5th, 2004 07:19 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Trojan_Ripper
Got to be confident to have hope in anything :lol: Zab. Over confident never....hopes have been up since last month..."feelin good man" feelin good!

I am not feeling good yet. Anything could happen in the next two months here. We just got to wait and see.

Trojan_Ripper September 5th, 2004 09:21 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-C
I am not feeling good yet. Anything could happen in the next two months here. We just got to wait and see.

What can happen X?

Terror at home or abroad? Who would you want running the Country?

Who has listed an agenda for the next (4) years? Bush!

Iraq is settleing down, "Like it was going to" with leadership. Less casualities daily.

Really, Look at who he is running against. A man who has continually shot himself in the foot.

!moof September 8th, 2004 04:57 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
This is just a possible error found in the poll data from Time and Newsweek. Zogby (John Zogby, a respected pollster, and the pollster for the Wall Street Journal, that commie rag) and Rasmussen (another respected polling group) claim that both polls have too many Republicans, based on raw data. When equalized to natinal average registration levels, Zogby reports a 3% Bush lead and Rasmussen a statistical tie. So, everybody put the champagne/tissues away and realize the election ain't over yet.

-Aqualung- September 8th, 2004 06:58 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by X-C
As it turns out, Kerry's bet at winning is Bush himself. If Bush screws up in the next two months this might change, but things are looking our way! Take that democrats!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...wsweek_poll_dc

Double digit lead, oh yeah!

Actually, last I checked Kerry, while behind on the popular vote, was 18 ahead on the electoral vote, which is not much and could easily slip.
Edit- Last newsweek, the one with the stupid looking ipod kid on the cover.

feverlax September 8th, 2004 01:38 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Actually it doesnt matter how bush is doin nationally it just matters how many states is he leading in if its more then kerry ill be surprised

NiteStryker September 10th, 2004 07:53 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
I would want Bush fighting terrorists over Kerry

Roarthealmighty September 11th, 2004 12:35 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
How do people get these polls? Like, do they have a mini- vote in a state?

NiteStryker September 11th, 2004 12:39 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
it could just be an internet thing...

!moof September 11th, 2004 09:36 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
They get these polls by surveying roughly a 1000 people in a target area at a time. THey try and get a balanced survey population, but sometimes the don't. That's where the margin of error (MoE) comes in. If the MoE is 4%, then 4 of every 100 polls will probably be wrong.

NiteStryker September 11th, 2004 04:21 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
o i was always wondering about the MoE and how that came into the poll

Blank Stare September 11th, 2004 04:29 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NiteStryker
I would want Bush fighting terrorists over Kerry

hells yeah.:bows:

!moof September 12th, 2004 12:40 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
I would want the U.S. military fighting terrorists rather than Bush.

-Logic-Is-A-Virtue- September 12th, 2004 02:25 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moof
I would want the U.S. military fighting terrorists rather than Bush.

LOL. That won't happen anytime soon even though it would be better. Bush is not a very good tactician.

Count Nosferatu September 12th, 2004 03:05 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Isn't all this anti-terrorism military force thing a bit Socialist?

I mean here we are, using public money to impose left wing values [ie democracy] with brute force whlie many of our own people suffer in poverty.

Menshevism... gotta love it.

-Logic-Is-A-Virtue- September 12th, 2004 09:45 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
In case you haven't noticed we are at war. We also want to end this was quickly with the best results. If we make a democracy in Iraq and Afganistan we will have a place for military bases in the future and a place were terrorist will be hunted. And sense when has democracy been left wing? That is like saying anarchy is right wing. Both democrats and republicans want democracy. Radicals want socialism and Reactionaries want a true republic. Democracy is not even a wing it is more like the whole chicken.:lol:

Count Nosferatu September 13th, 2004 02:09 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
I fail to see how that is relevant to what I said....

Biggus Dickus September 13th, 2004 02:18 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Neither with the topic, actually. Maybe should we get back to it?

WiseBobo September 13th, 2004 06:58 AM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moof
I would want the U.S. military fighting terrorists rather than Bush.

I would rather see the United States Military in action with Bush than disbanded by John Kerry.

!moof September 13th, 2004 03:02 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
1. Bobo, did you have to bring that into it? I make a joke about GWB single-handedly fighting the global war on terror, (It's funny, political, and non-partisan!) and you make it into a attack on Kerry. Jeez.

2. The question for Iraq is not whether the Iraqis want democracy. They do. The question is, do the Iraqis want our democracy?

3. Biggs, the thread simply evolved. There is now a vibrant discussion on a different matter that need not be squelched.

NiteStryker September 15th, 2004 04:11 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by moof
I would want the U.S. military fighting terrorists rather than Bush.

Who do you think commands the army?

A more 'correct' statement would have been 'I want the US military fighting terrorists rather than politicians', which is whats goin down now...

_masterchief117_ September 15th, 2004 04:38 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
wut lal the conservatives said
and bush is in the lead in so many polls
washington post
time
newsweek
i mean come on all very liberal magazines and bush is leading tremendously

!moof September 16th, 2004 04:01 PM

Re: Bush has a double digit lead over Kerry
 
Ok, I'm going to explain the joke, once and for alll. Imagine you were a terrorist hiding in a cave. Suddenly, over the horizon, comes the President, dressed like Rambo and shooting down hundreds of terrorists a second with his trusty M60. That was the purpose of the joke. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings.

!moof September 16th, 2004 04:11 PM

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