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Old September 1st, 2004   #1
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exclaim Islam- Religion of violence?

Why does Islam religion supports, teaches and nurishes violence? Why hasn't it progressed into the modern times with the rest of religions, and is stuck in medieval times? What is wrong with the whole Middle East? Doesnt anyone there sees that their religion is going into wrong direction? In my opinion, the Islam is religion that proclames violence as the best way to God.
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We need more followers of the Force, not Islam

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That is a stereotype of Islam. Islam is in fact a very peaceful religion, it is the small number of radical and fundamentalist Islamists that have given Islam a bad name in Western society. I know a good number of Muslims and they are not violent or taught hate or violence, they are very peaceful, almost pacifist. Western media portrays most Muslims as terrorists or radicals and does not embrace what Islam is, a peaceful religion that once united much of the known world and moved a lot further both culturally and technologically than Christian societies of the Middle Ages.

A little fact, Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet. More people are converting to Islam now than Christianity. Christianity is a dying religion in my eyes, many of the former Christians I know [which is much of my school] no longer believe in Jesus, God and those other figures. I watched a report on the news that a diocese in France that is asking the Vatican to allow women priests and marriage for priests because of the diminishing popularity of priesthood and the church in general, and that is quite consistent with many Western countries these days, including my own.

Following the Force? Who is your leader? George Lucas? I know that 20,000 people said they were Jedi on the last Canadian census, but for the most part it was all for fun and jokes, I dont think many of the people take it seriously as you do. I myself, am an Atheist, I abide by own rules and morales, I have no need for a god[s] or such fiction.

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I don't really know much about the islamic religion, but I've heard that it's a peaceful religion. Like I always say, people will take thing way to an extreme... I should probably read the korahn..

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Muslims are really nice people, if you meet the right people.

I think it's just that they love their god so much that they would die for him/her/it. I dunno anything about Islam, ut maybe it teaches something really awe inspiring.

Just like some soldiers are so dedicated and patriotic that they would die for their country, some Muslims die for their religion.

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If Islam is so peaceful, why so many Muslims and other islam followers commit so many crimes against the humanity and terrorist acts? Why have the rest of the Islamic religious population have not condemed such acts, and gave up the terrorists to the authorities? Is it not because they harbour Islamic militants because they are of the same faith?How many Christians, Buddists, Shintoists or even Satanists have you heard of that are as violent as Muslims? And I dont mean in past history. I mean in this and past century. Islam has caused much chaos and disturbance in the Force

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Why does Islam religion supports, teaches and nurishes violence? Why hasn't it progressed into the modern times with the rest of religions, and is stuck in medieval times? What is wrong with the whole Middle East? Doesnt anyone there sees that their religion is going into wrong direction? In my opinion, the Islam is religion that proclames violence as the best way to God.
I am a Jedi Knight myself. My religion is pro Peace, Harmony


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There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no death; there is the Force.

We need more followers of the Force, not Islam
don't display your ignorance. Islam is, if anything, less violent than Christianity
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And whether you like it or not, the amount of atrocities commited by christians far outweighs the number commited by muslims. In 'past history' as you put it, we have the Inquisition, the Crusades (millions of Muslims were slaughtered, entire cities were destroyed and their entire populations executed, down to the last child), The wars over protestantism, the witch hunts, etc.

Arabs have always been a highly civilised, intelligent and scientific people. Most modern mathematics was either created or preserved by the Arabs after the Roman Empire dissolved. They are highly hospitable and courteous. For centuries the Arabs were the most advaned civilisation on the planet.

And if you'd been paying attention instead of reading Star Wars fan fiction and making a lightsaber out of bits of old pipe, you'd know the terrorists have been roundly condemned by the entire muslim world. You should really check your facts before insulting one of the largest religions on Earth.

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Why does Islam religion supports, teaches and nurishes violence? Why hasn't it progressed into the modern times with the rest of religions, and is stuck in medieval times? What is wrong with the whole Middle East? Doesnt anyone there sees that their religion is going into wrong direction? In my opinion, the Islam is religion that proclames violence as the best way to God.
I agree. Muslims behind September 11th terror attacks, suicide bombings in European and American capitals etc. The thing wrong with the middle east is that they believe so blindly that we westerners are trying to get rid of them. We are actually helping their countries to become democracy. We are enforcing basic human rights. What do we get in return? Well about 10 000 dead and one massive pile of rubble in downtown Manhatten. Why do we bother?

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Reven, the edit button is your friend. But anyway...

Has it occured to anyone that maybe they don't want democracy? The Arab world, like Oriental and African cultures, is funamentally different in many many ways from Western culture. They've developed their own systems, which have worked for them for thousands of years. You can't just force a Western system of thought on a totally different culture. It will not work. That's why Africa is torn apart by war. We forced Western systems on them, and the systems collapsed because they didn't work in that culture.

Oh, as for thinking the 'Western World' is trying to get rid of them, it's not like they have no reason to think it, the attempt has been made in the past.

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I agree. Muslims behind September 11th terror attacks, suicide bombings in European and American capitals etc. The thing wrong with the middle east is that they believe so blindly that we westerners are trying to get rid of them. We are actually helping their countries to become democracy. We are enforcing basic human rights. What do we get in return? Well about 10 000 dead and one massive pile of rubble in downtown Manhatten. Why do we bother?

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I agree. Christians behind Crusades, slaughter of innocents in Africa, Asia, South America etc. The thing wrong with Christians is that they believe so blindly that every other religion promotes death and destruction because they are too stuck up their own asses to see past the end of their noses. Islam is a peaceful religion. It promotes understanding between all men and has done since before Christendom first came into contact with them. What do they get in return? Well more than 1,000,000 dead during a Crusades and one massive pile of dead bodies in the so called Holy Lands. Why did they bother trying to reason with the Christian butchers?

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Technically Islam is Christianity reformed... just as Christianity is Judaism reformed [and Judaism is Semitic Paganism reformed]. One can't deny that Islam was born out of the sword... but then at least their religious leader didn't get nailed to a plank of wood :\.

Tit for tat I suppose

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