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Old September 2nd, 2004   #61
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I haven't read any proof so far in this thread that MODERN Islam is not promoting violence in some people's views. MODERN Christianity/Buddism/Whatever do not motivate people to kill for their God like Islam does.
Those "wrong' parts are still in the bible, they only are not told/discussed by the modern members of the church (priests etc.). Same goes for the Koran, the "wrong"parts are still there and most imams don't tell/discuss them. Some do however but there are alsi christian priests who discuss the "wrong" parts (that the man standa above the women etc.).

Infact the koran and bible really look a like, some parts are even exactly the same. Both the koran and bible say contradicting parts (one part says that the man stands above the woman, an other parts says that they are equel and an other parts says that the woman stands above the man) this applies to both the bible and the koran.

Some parts out of the koran:


The Holy Qur'án

the koran often comes in the news. Some extremistische moslims justify their war against the west with it. judgements about homosexuality are based on it. But what exactly is said in the holy book about for example the use of violence or the relation between man and woman? And how should these parts be interpreted?

Sura 47 vers 4, About the war with the nonbelievers


Dying is a duty for the muslim


ROTTERDAM, 9 OKT. 2001 - One of the clearest parts about the war between muslims and the foreign nonbelievers

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Sura 4 vers 34, about the position of man and woman.



The islam puts the woman above the man


ROTTERDAM, 10 OKT. The koran has many versen about the woman. One of the most note worthy is Sura 4 vers 34.


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Sura 5 vers 33 about the level of punishment





Cutting of bodyparts of terrorists


ROTTERDAM, 11 OKT. 2001 - Body punishment in Islamic countries such as iran and Sudan recall indignation in the west.Those countries base their sentence policy on the sharia, the Islamic legislation.


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Sura 7 vers 81 about homoseksuality





Non-practisising homo is a good homo.


ROTTERDAM, 12 OKT. 2001 - he proposition of the rotterdamse imam El-Moumni that homoseksualiteit a contagious sickness is and a threat forms for the society, caused this spring the necessary upheaval.

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modernisering of the koran


Turky modernises the way the koran is explained. ANKARA - The Turkish directorate for religion matter will adapt the traditional explanation of the koran to the modern time. Passages concerning for example polygamy, slavery, beating women and law of inheritance become to reconsider, in the light of current insights.

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Infact the man is the slave of the woman


Infact the man is the slave of the woman.ISTANBUL - does Islam believe in the equality of man and woman? , no '', say the liberal Turkish hoogleraar and theoloog Zekerya Beyaz decides. , according to Islam the man must look after the woman. It is the responsibility of the man all that well reilt and sails in house and that bread on the beam comes there. In fact the man is therefore the slave of the woman''


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each other seemingly contradicting texts



Do not let you by each other seemingly contradicting texts from the Qur'án of wise bring, because exact there for that is that: to let reflect you independently and your own gone of mental development to follow. Because nobody, really nobody can take over, dát of you. No ayatollah, mullah or imam.


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source: http://www.wereldeenheid.nl/koran.htm
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and when did msulims kill for allah?
and please name some reasonable time, why do you have so much hatred for islam and muslims? is there some Jewish( i dont care what you say they hate us too), fueling you with lies and propaganda? have you been reading Chick Tracts latley? have you ever heard of me running around killing for allah?

Edit: i forgot to add a thanks for the people that defended islam on this thread.
I do not hate people that follow any religions. As a matter of fact, I do not hate anyone. And, if you havent been reading my other threads, I am not a Christian. I follow the Jedi code.
Seem like your anti-semitic mind is being clouded by your beliefs.

Whatch any of the terrorist beheading videos. What do they keep repeating while cutting someones head off, or watching a truck full of people being blown up??

They keep saying ALLAH AKBAR- which means I think Allah is great!
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They keep saying ALLAH AKBAR- which means I think Allah is great!
Thats as "bad" as a christian saying "god be praised" "in gods name" "god is with us" or even "god bless america" etc.

If you want to homour your lord it is ok. (blowing yourself up causing lots of innocent victems is not however).
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I do not hate people that follow any religions. As a matter of fact, I do not hate anyone. And, if you havent been reading my other threads, I am not a Christian. I follow the Jedi code.
Seem like your anti-semitic mind is being clouded by your beliefs.

Whatch any of the terrorist beheading videos. What do they keep repeating while cutting someones head off, or watching a truck full of people being blown up??

They keep saying ALLAH AKBAR- which means I think Allah is great!

#1: im not anti-semetic. do you see me running around saying bad things about judism? no.
#2: i have been reading your other threads that spread lies about islam.
#3: yes, allah is great, who wouldnt consider his god to be great?
#4: those iraqies are bad muslims and niehter me nor my family suppport what they do or say.(beheading)

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Did someone tell you Star War was only a movie?
Did someone tell you Bible is just a book written by a bunch of guys living in a desert?
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Did someone tell you that many Jedi disciplines are directly ripped off from various branches of Buddhism.

"The voice of the people is the cry from Hell"
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Islam isn't a violent religion at all, fundamentatlists just interpret it to make it look like what they are doing is right.
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Did someone tell you Bible is just a book written by a bunch of guys living in a desert?
Yes, he knows, your point?

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Whatch any of the terrorist beheading videos. What do they keep repeating while cutting someones head off, or watching a truck full of people being blown up??

They keep saying ALLAH AKBAR- which means I think Allah is great!
So a terrorist screaming Allah Akbar is your proof? Yes, that 'powned' smily was in place

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the tone of this thread is getting unfriendly. keep it nice or go away!

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