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Old September 1st, 2004   #31
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IRA was active 20-30 years ago, even they learned to live in peace and adapt. And they were not fighting for same reasons Jihadists are.
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But they were still killing people using terrorist tactics,.. or whatever.
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Jihadists are killing people for their Allah, to get to Paradise with 70 virgins or whatever. The IRA fought for independance and freedom.
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Jihadists are killing people for their Allah, to get to Paradise with 70 virgins or whatever. The IRA fought for independance and freedom.
Arn't terrorists in Iraq trying to win Iraq's freedom from the 'puppet master' of the USA?
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Do you support their tactics?
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Heh, I saw something on the IRA earlier up. I dont think I should lecture you on it, because the topic passed, so I wont unless you ask. The one thing I will say is that they are no saints. At first, they were semi-good, semi-bad soldiers (borderline thugs with a cause) but in time they got bomb happy. There are many orginizations claiming to be IRA, just ask and I'll tell ya about them.

Anyways, there are no bad religions, just bad people. I'm Catholic and dont believe the Inquisition was good. (Of course, I am no saint, I'll be the first to say so, but better people than me fiercely denounce this and actions like it) Witchcraft was because of paranoia.

Athiests have been just as violent as religious folks. Hitler was one, does that mean AzH is like him? No, it does not. Hussien is not Muslim, he exploits his peoples religion. He, too, is an Athiest (or maybe just extremely secular...) but that doesnt mean JP(NL) is like him.

Certain British leaders were downright nasty, like the Oliver Lord Protector guy or whatever his name was (I forgot cuz I studied him two years ago) oppressed anyone none-Protestant. Is Darth Sporky like him? No, of course not.

Some popes did some pretty dumb-ass things like the Inquisiton and a few of the Crusades (some of them had a good reason). I do not think that I am like them.

So, using these examples, why would the Muslim extremists shape your view of the entirity of Islam?

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There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no death; there is the Force.

We need more followers of the Force, not Islam
Sorry to burst ur bubble, but Jedi dont exist, 'Star Wars' really didnt happen 'a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away'....

Islam does preach violence tho...the Koran, so I have heard, promotes very unethical and inhumane treatment of girls.

But also, the christian bible says you can sell your children to slavery, as long as they are in the same tribe, so I dunno


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But also, the christian bible says you can sell your children to slavery, as long as they are in the same tribe, so I dunno
????? Where did you read that??

This is my indictment of your beliefs
This is my indictment of what you hold dear

My eyes have seen the horrors that you
Commit in the name of your god
Your god is violence your god is unholy
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This is why I need to write my book on my beliefs. If the Jedi can catch on I am sure mine will influence some people, which is enough. All violence is stupid. I am SURE that neither Jesus nor Mohammad said that any part of doing evil was OK. Most of the stories from religious text comes way after the time the "son's of god" arrived. A lot of the stuff is just someone that wants to go down in history as a part of a religion, so they made it up.

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He wasn't just killing for the hell of it...he was judging the people of sodom and gomorrah, and he even said for the sake of 10 rightous he would spare the city...there wasn't 10 rightous in the city, so he got the 5 or so rightous out... Read the Bible before you derate it please.
Oh... and is it really his place to judge? And what exactly IS "killing for the hell of it"... killing is killing... the motive is irrelevant.

Perhaps you should reassess the superficiality of your views...


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Exodus 21:7-9

1 "Now these are the ordinances which you are to set before them: 2 "If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall go out as a free man without payment. 3 "If he comes alone, he shall go out alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall go out with him. 4 "If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone. 5 "But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife and my children; I will not go out as a free man,' 6 then his master shall bring him to God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him permanently. 7 "If a man sells his daughter as a female slave, she is not to go free as the male slaves do. 8 "If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master who designated her for himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He does not have authority to sell her to a foreign people because of his unfairness to her. 9 "If he designates her for his son, he shall deal with her according to the custom of daughters. 10 "If he takes to himself another woman, he may not reduce her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights. 11 "If he will not do these three {things} for her, then she shall go out for nothing, without {payment of} money.
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