Islam- Religion of violence

[Dreadnought[DK]]

Originally Posted by Buddy Jesus

dreadnought did u some how revoke my ability to post threads? or maybe i'm just lost.

i don't think so. do you experience any problems?

[Force Recon]

Jediisim?WTF!

[JP(NL)]

don't ask. seriously.

First of all, you are quoting me out of context. Secondly, We are here to talk about Islam, not flame each other personaly.

oh I forgot, you just want to accuse muslims of being violant, uncivilised bastards in general.

" You called everyone ignorant when they all refused to become Jedi's" is what you said about me. I have never said that. I simply stated that following a fake story about things that never happened ( People walking on water, coming back from the dead, etc), is just like being a Jedi and following Star Wars. Christians and Muslims are just as "nerdy" as any other religion followers

there we go again....

I am right. I know everything. I think god doesn't excist, therefor he does not.

stop being so arrogant and stop insulting other people's beliefs, just because you think they're wrong.

[darknights]

Originally Posted by vladtemplar

I simply stated that following a fake story about things that never happened ( People walking on water, coming back from the dead, etc), is just like being a Jedi and following Star Wars. Christians and Muslims are just as "nerdy" as any other religion followers

vlad 1st the stories in the bible, koran or the torrah are "based" one real events that happened. Not saying did or did not happen.

secondly star wars came out George Lucas and his friends imagination.

so really the point I want to say is that the religous books are from written accounts that happened. Star Wars came out of someones head!!

[-DarthMaul-]

I needed to answer one thing Vladtemplar asked on a diffrent Thread(it is closed now).

He asked: Why do muslims still support Jihad? well, because almost every one in the world is in a Jihad, even you Vladtemplar, Christians and jews and all religions...

Ex: vladtemplar your in a Jihad to lets say Get a promotion. or a raise.
Muslims are in a Jihad in not to Drink beer or have sex openly.
Christians are in a jihad to lets say keep praying to Jesus/god.

I hope you understand what Jihad means now.

[Nemmerle]

jihad

noun
1 {C or U} a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings

2 {C} a spiritual fight against the evil in yourself

[-DarthMaul-]

"There are different kinds of Jihad:
Jehad-bil-saaf (Armed struggle)
In this kind of Jihad, The Muslims organize themselves under an 'Ameir' (Leader) and start their struggle against the enemy. Enemies can be of different types i.e. Jehad-bil-saaf can be declared against an attacking enemy or it can be declared against an enemy state, which is either torching the Muslim populations in that country or trying to create trouble for an Islamic State. Jehad-bil-saaf is what others (Non-Muslims) know as 'The Holy War' of Muslims...

Jehad-e-Akbar (to prevent yourself from committing indecent acts)
Jehad-e-Akbar is the most difficult form of Jihad because in this form of Jihad, one must have to be very careful about his daily life deeds. Jehad-e-Akbar means 'The Biggest Jihad' (As 'Akbar' means big, great).

Jehad-bil-Elum (to tell others about right way who does not know it)
Jehad-bil-Elum means to spread the light of knowledge to others, to tell people about right and wrong, to tell people how to live their daily life and how to behave with other Muslims and Non-Muslims. This clearly shows how much Islam gives importance to Knowledge and its teacher. A teacher who is busy doing his job is considered to be involved in this pious and noble Jihad.

Jehad-bil-Mall (to spend your wealth for Allah, in the way of Allah)
Jehad-bil-Mall means that if a [person] for some reason cannot himself participate in the noble event like Jihad, he can contribute in Jihad by helping 'Mujahedien' (Muslim Soldiers). A person can also contribute with his money even if he himself [is not] taking [an] active part in Jihad."


Ged, i know your the worlds smartest man and you know every thing about Islam, but i speak Arabic, and i KNOW that i know more about this subject/language then you do... yes people do Consider the word meaning a "holy war" but notice the other 3 meanings...

1 {C or U} a holy war which is fought by Muslims against people who are a threat to the Islamic religion or who oppose its teachings

If this was true there would have been wars aginst Christians, Jews, and all other Religions in the world, and it would have been done thousands of years ago...

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

"There are different kinds of Jihad:
Jehad-bil-saaf (Armed struggle)
In this kind of Jihad, The Muslims organize themselves under an 'Ameir' (Leader) and start their struggle against the enemy. Enemies can be of different types i.e. Jehad-bil-saaf can be declared against an attacking enemy or it can be declared against an enemy state, which is either torching the Muslim populations in that country or trying to create trouble for an Islamic State. Jehad-bil-saaf is what others (Non-Muslims) know as 'The Holy War' of Muslims...

Jehad-e-Akbar (to prevent yourself from committing indecent acts)
Jehad-e-Akbar is the most difficult form of Jihad because in this form of Jihad, one must have to be very careful about his daily life deeds. Jehad-e-Akbar means 'The Biggest Jihad' (As 'Akbar' means big, great).

Jehad-bil-Elum (to tell others about right way who does not know it)
Jehad-bil-Elum means to spread the light of knowledge to others, to tell people about right and wrong, to tell people how to live their daily life and how to behave with other Muslims and Non-Muslims. This clearly shows how much Islam gives importance to Knowledge and its teacher. A teacher who is busy doing his job is considered to be involved in this pious and noble Jihad.

Jehad-bil-Mall (to spend your wealth for Allah, in the way of Allah)
Jehad-bil-Mall means that if a [person] for some reason cannot himself participate in the noble event like Jihad, he can contribute in Jihad by helping 'Mujahedien' (Muslim Soldiers). A person can also contribute with his money even if he himself [is not] taking [an] active part in Jihad."

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

Ged, i know your the worlds smartest man

/me Struts up and down but walks into the wall by mistake

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

and you know every thing about Islam,

/me Senses sarcasm

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

but i speak Arabic, and i KNOW that i know more about this subject/language then you do... yes people do Consider the word meaning a "holy war" but notice the other 3 meanings...

Yeah, sorry I'm tired I should have put a quote in.
I mostly meant how could the pursuit of a raise qualify as Jihad?

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

If this was true there would have been wars aginst Christians, Jews, and all other Religions in the world, and it would have been done thousands of years ago...

There were. You lost.

[-DarthMaul-]

Jihad Basicly means to Strugle or Strive to be better , so i just Put that he could be Struggling/striving to get a Raise...

You still think you know more then Muslims about Islam.

There were. You lost.

So you still thinks muslims had Mass wars aginst All religions and you still think they were forcing people into Islam after all ive told you? Fine.

[El Hombre del Fuego]

DarthMaul, thank you very much for posting that info. I respect you a lot more now.

Actually, us Christians only won the First Crusade. The Muslims beat us fair and square afterwords.

I just want to note that the First Crusade was the only one based on religious means, the others were either greed, or the defence of Edessa or something.