Islam- Religion of violence

[-DarthMaul-]

You still dont get what i mean.

Originally Posted by Ged

Lots of people follow it. (Doesn’t mean their right though)

Post #270, bottom of page 9.

[vladtemplar]

Thinking that something must be right because many people are doing it, is a LOGICAL FALLACY called APPEAL TO POPULARITY

http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/pop.htm

Appeal to Popularity
(argumentum ad populum)

Definition:

• A proposition is held to be true because it is widely held to
  be true or is held to be true by some (usually upper crust)
  sector of the population.
  This fallacy is sometimes also called the "Appeal to Emotion"
  because emotional appeals often sway the population as a
  whole.

Examples:

• (i) If you were beautiful, you could live like this, so buy
  Buty-EZ and become beautiful. (Here, the appeal is to the
  "beautiful people".)
  (ii) Polls suggest that the Liberals will form a majority
  government, so you may as well vote for them.
  (iii) Everyone knows that the Earth is flat, so why do you
  persist in your outlandish claims?

References:

• Copi and Cohen: 103, Davis: 62

And what you was doing to me earlier is called ATTACKING THE PERSON
http://www.datanation.com/fallacies/attack.htm
Attacking the Person
(argumentum ad hominem)

Definition:

• The person presenting an argument is attacked instead of the
  argument itself. This takes many forms. For example, the
  person's character, nationality or religion may be attacked.
  Alternatively, it may be pointed out that a person stands to
  gain from a favourable outcome. Or, finally, a person may be
  attacked by association, or by the company he keeps. There are three major forms of Attacking the Person:
  (1) ad hominem (abusive): instead of attacking an assertion,
  the argument attacks the person who made the assertion.
  (2) ad hominem (circumstantial): instead of attacking an
  assertion the author points to the relationship between the
  person making the assertion and the person's circumstances.
  (3) ad hominem (tu quoque): this form of attack on the
  person notes that a person does not practise what he
  preaches.
  
  

Examples:

• (i) You may argue that God doesn't exist, but you are just
  following a fad. (ad hominem abusive)
  (ii) We should discount what Premier Klein says about
  taxation because he won't be hurt by the increase. (ad
  hominem circumstantial)
  (iii) We should disregard Share B.C.'s argument because they
  are being funded by the logging industry. (ad hominem
  circumstantial)
  (iv) You say I shouldn't drink, but you haven't been sober for
  more than a year. (ad hominem tu quoque)

Proof:

• Identify the attack and show that the character or
  circumstances of the person has nothing to do with the truth
  or falsity of the proposition being defended.

References:

[-DarthMaul-]

ok again, since you didnt read the post where i ask you to state where i said we are right.
tell em Vladtemplar, where did i say we were right because we have 1+ billion followers?

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

Post #270, bottom of page 9.

I haven't said that YOU said they were I was just commenting that it didn't.

[vladtemplar]

Originally Posted by DarthMaul

ok again, since you didnt read the post where i ask you to state where i said we are right.
tell em Vladtemplar, where did i say we were right because we have 1+ billion followers?

Are you saying that 1+ billion Muslim followers including you are wrong?

[-DarthMaul-]

im saying that every one has his own beliefes, and im not saying me and over 1+ billion followers are right, and im also not saying we are wrong, and same goes ot jedi KNIGHTS and all other religions.

[vladtemplar]

You are still using the "Attacking the Person" logical fallacy. Its not working
Confused about your own religion? A billion of Muslims are not right?

[mrcards]

Originally Posted by CHAKA

don't display your ignorance. Islam is, if anything, less violent than Christianity
.
And whether you like it or not, the amount of atrocities commited by christians far outweighs the number commited by muslims. In 'past history' as you put it, we have the Inquisition, the Crusades (millions of Muslims were slaughtered, entire cities were destroyed and their entire populations executed, down to the last child), The wars over protestantism, the witch hunts, etc.

Arabs have always been a highly civilised, intelligent and scientific people. Most modern mathematics was either created or preserved by the Arabs after the Roman Empire dissolved. They are highly hospitable and courteous. For centuries the Arabs were the most advaned civilisation on the planet.

And if you'd been paying attention instead of reading Star Wars fan fiction and making a lightsaber out of bits of old pipe, you'd know the terrorists have been roundly condemned by the entire muslim world. You should really check your facts before insulting one of the largest religions on Earth.

******well said, well said...I'm sick of so many people jumping on the slam Islam bandwagon, just because of their upbringing, peers, and CNN. Time to do some investigation of our own, don't ya think? Thanks for listening...

[El Hombre del Fuego]

vlad, don't be a jackass. Of course he's not confused, he just means to be polite.

He could have said this, and been slightly ruder, but not by much:

I believe that my religion is right, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Oh, and mrcards, when you think about it, all vegetarians are killers, too, including all those animals. Just a thought.

[JP(NL)]

Originally Posted by vladtemplar

There might be a billion muslims, but they are still all wrong for following a religion, esspecially one telling them to kill unbelievers. Any world organized religion is wrong, since there is no god

I see your words like this:

Originally Posted by vladtemplar

blablabla stupid muslims, I don't give a rats ass what other people think. I'm right. damn I'm arrogant.

damn you're arrogant.