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Mihail September 1st, 2004 03:50 PM

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Why should we push our values onto them? I find the death penalty to be very inhumane, plus the percentage of error is very high and likely alot of innocent people have died for nothing. But that does not mean we will force america to stop doing it because we respect them to have their own way with dealing with things, different goverments, etc etc.

Just because they are not as modern in their values as some would like does not mean a new crusade should be started.

AzH September 1st, 2004 03:52 PM

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Just because they are not as modern in their values as some would like does not mean a new crusade should be started.

i'm afraid it already has..... :(

Count Nosferatu September 1st, 2004 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vladtemplar
KKK has nothing to do with Christianity

Islamism has nothing to do with Islam...

Aeroflot September 1st, 2004 03:53 PM

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Islamism???????

Count Nosferatu September 1st, 2004 03:55 PM

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Islamism???????

An extreme brand of Islam which preaches intolerance and External Jihad [which is NOT the primary Jihad of Islam - the primary Jihad is of spiritual betterance.. self conflict rather than external conflict].

If you want to see an example of Islamism, check out your local Hamas dealership

vladtemplar September 1st, 2004 03:59 PM

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KKK has nothing to do with Christianity

Here is a KKK history http://www.pointsouth.com/csanet/kkk.htm

Get your facts straight please

Here it is again
I am not defending the Klan, just pointing out that just because they are bunch of white guys, it doesnt mean they are Christians.
"Islamism" as you call it is part of Islam:rolleyes:

Mihail September 1st, 2004 04:04 PM

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i'm afraid it already has..... :(

Yeah, but this crusade was not about religon and trying to be allowed back/recovering the into the holy land, this crusade is about lust.

vladtemplar September 1st, 2004 04:10 PM

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I dont think America has any buisness over there with any Crusades, it just fuels the Islamists (followers of Islam) to commit more terrorists acts, like the hundreds of Russian kids taken hostage today, or mass killings of hostages in Iraq.
Muslim extremists need to realize that they are following a wrong path. One that leads to bloodshed. They have to come to that concusion themselves.

D.Sporky! September 1st, 2004 04:31 PM

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Well the torah and the bible both mention God copiously smiting his foes [need I mention Sodom and Gomorrah.. Hiroshimas of the Ancient world (if true that is)] or of course partial spiritual emphasis on external jihad.

He wasn't just killing for the hell of it...he was judging the people of sodom and gomorrah, and he even said for the sake of 10 rightous he would spare the city...there wasn't 10 rightous in the city, so he got the 5 or so rightous out... Read the Bible before you derate it please.

colonel_bob September 1st, 2004 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vladtemplar
I am not defending the Klan, just pointing out that just because they are bunch of white guys, it doesnt mean they are Christians.

Alright, the IRA anyone? A bunch of Catholics (I think) running around killing people. Does this mean Catholicism is a violent religion?


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