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-DarthMaul- September 13th, 2004 12:18 PM
Re: Islam- Religion of violence
 
its very hard for muslims in america getting jobs/citizenship/other things. i remember once there were four adults in a car when we were entering Winn Dixie, they scream "oh no a muslim please dont blow us all up!" and they run like cowards and laugh.

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I have forum friends who support strongly for Bush ,anti-Osama and anti-Saddam.
same here, but there are certain people that if you go over the line with THIER views they consider you to be retarded, or a terrorist supporter.

CHAKA September 13th, 2004 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by vladtemplar
Jim Eadon

In case I am mistaken for an apologist for the ugly terrorist antics of the current enemies of the Jews - the Palestinians/arabs - I hasten to point out that of all religions, Islam is the one behind the most wars; terrorism; brutal and educationally backwards societies; and the majority of the most authoritarian and evil governments in modern times (and that's saying something). Forget multiculturalism, the world would be a safer place without religion in general and Islam in particular. It is only fair to point out that in medieval times Christianity was responsible for the same ugly species of atrocities as Islam is today. Even today, in their ignorance some Christians, Jews and most Muslims still mindlessly deny the scientific fact of evolution, which says a lot about the ability of the human mind to be made irrational by the worship of gods and the propaganda of scientifically illiterate priests, rabbis and mullahs.

http://www.eadon.com/movies/passionofchrist.php

I agree with this person completley
you're still wrong, and you're still ignorant....

DiGGeR September 13th, 2004 12:38 PM
Re: Islam- Religion of violence
 
Ok, ive read a lot of pages (not all) from this topic and i need to clear up a few things. I myself am a muslim and i've studied world religions a lot, especially my own (of course).

1)Islam does preach violence tho...the Koran, so I have heard, promotes very unethical and inhumane treatment of girls.- Thats a disgusting stereotype and a rumour. Men are told to work outside the house, women inside the house- but women can do both. The prohet (PBUH)'s wife Amina was a great businesswoman.

2) Koran, Qur'an both the same- Qur'an is more accurate though. We have a weak K and a strong Q in arabic, its the strong Q in Qur'an.

3) How many people do you think are affiliated with Al Qaeda? A few thousand max? Even if its 10's of thousands, there are over 1 billion muslims on the the planet- how can you judge them all? Thats like judging all Meat Eaters as killers (Please, dont debate that- its an example, unless your debate is valid)

4) Not all muslims dislike jews, i have no problems with them. I dont judge any group of people with any beleifs- and this is the same with many muslims.

5) Relating to the Top heading- The word islam has many meanings, 'Peace', 'Submission', etc. Ive read so many Qu'ran quotes about war and killing, where are your quotes about treating those who are cruel and oppressive to you with patience? If you Qur'an quoting people actually studied islam, the Qur'an and the Prophet (PBUH)s teachings in deapth, you would realise what nonsence this thread and the entire stereotype is. The Qur'an even mentions the 'hypocrites'. These are those who claim to be loyal to Allah but plot or sin- a la Talibal/Al Qaeda. Us muslims DONT support them, they are a bunch of imbisciles- they just ruin it for every other muslim.

I really gotta sleep now but i hope i've enlightened some people of what us 'Muslims' (not islamists or mohammadists) represent ;).

-DarthMaul- September 13th, 2004 12:50 PM
Re: Islam- Religion of violence
 
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is ok, same here. but i think Nesh did this so people can Clearly read what he is saying. (i think his english got better)

DANG! so sorry i said Nesh, i thought something was wrong when i saw the paragraphing and good english. ROFL you both kinda have similar Avatars and i thought it was him, and i thought he was out of his mind! sorry for callng you Nesh.:(

yay i count 4 muslims(inclusing me) on the forums now.

vladtemplar September 13th, 2004 02:37 PM
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Just because your religion has more people than others, does not make it correct. Using the numbers is a logical fallacy. There might be a billion muslims, but they are still all wrong for following a religion, esspecially one telling them to kill unbelievers. Any world organized religion is wrong, since there is no god

Force Recon September 13th, 2004 02:54 PM
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Everyone has their opinion I understand .You have a right to say whatever you want but that doesn't mean Muslim are gonna be called towel-heads.Its an insult.Atleast to me.And when I said I can't tolerate people saying against Islam I mean that I feel myself insulted.I don't mean that I am gonna launch Boeing 747 attacks on every building in the USA.I just feel insulted and etc.etc.

vladtemplar September 13th, 2004 03:07 PM
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I have never in my past, and never will call people derigatory names. I have been though that myself, and I know how it feels.

-DarthMaul- September 13th, 2004 03:09 PM
Re: Islam- Religion of violence
 
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Originally Posted by vladtemplar
Just because your religion has more people than others, does not make it correct. Using the numbers is a logical fallacy. There might be a billion muslims, but they are still all wrong for following a religion, esspecially one telling them to kill unbelievers. Any world organized religion is wrong, since there is no god

ok Ged, and Vladtemplar tell me where i said muslims are right because they have over a billion followers? i didnt. i said why is the" religion of violence:rolleyes:" the most/fastest growing religion on the world? my point here is that alot of people are converting to the"Rekigion of violence:rolleyes:". get it?
now, you give a bad people to jedis :p your religion is made up of warrior with light sabers! you are a violent Jedi KNIGHT

vladtemplar September 13th, 2004 03:18 PM
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Why are people smoking cigarettes, when they know its bad for them? Why are people doing crazy things like joining organized religions is beyond me.
I do not have a light saber, since Star Wars is a movie and not real, just like your Allah and Mohammed and Jesus were just normal people. Koran and Bible preach non-sense that is outdated, fake and just plain fantasy, just like Star Wars. You are crazy just like me.

Nemmerle September 13th, 2004 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DarthMaul
ok Ged, and Vladtemplar tell me where i said Muslims are right because they have over a billion followers?
I haven’t said you did say they were right because of the number of followers.

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Originally Posted by DarthMaul
I didn’t. I said why is the" religion of violence :rolleyes:" the most/fastest growing religion on the world? my point here is that a lot of people are converting to the "Religion of violence :rolleyes:". get it?
Why should I care how many people convert to your religion?


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