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Old September 8th, 2004   #221
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Actually Palastinians have millions of AKs and such but isreal has better assualt rifles, tanks, planes, helicopters, more troops, an organized army, better training, better supplies, more supplies, and have the back up of world powers if they get in trouble. Palasinians started using suicide bombers because conventional weapons weren't working. Now they use terror. They use suicide bombings because it scares people more because they know that that the enemy hates them so much they are willing to die in order to kill them.

BTW I back Palastinians although I disagree at how they are going about it.

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but this dosent mean israel dosent use terror. if you live in america(like me) you will never see on TV what happens every day over there.

btw: if you live in europe you propably get some of the things that happen there on TV.

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It's time for me to jump in again.

Lets see.... where to start.... AH! There.

Palistine and Isreal are both wrong. They have been at it for so long they just can't see that the first side to say, "That's enough!" will get a ton of respect among the world powers. I mean, when are the leaders going to see that all the land in the world is not worth such a river of blood as they are providing?

The Jewish people say that they are entitled to that land because of the Bible. Wrong. The land was set aside for them a long time ago, when the righteous were in danger of dieing out. Now, as soon as they stop it with their childish fighting, they will see that that land is capable of housing two major religions, and a third if the Christians decide to return in large numbers. And a fourth if someone else wishes to join the party.

Both Isreal and Palestine are acting like this now-overused word 'terrorists'. Isreali helocopters blow up buildings, killing civilians; as propaganda-fueled Palestinians blow themselves up in bus stations. The only difference between the two is how it's done.

I, for one, can not tell if someone is Palestinian or Isreali by looking at them. Can you?
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1. Explosives, grenades and AK-47s are weapons. Palestinians have them

ofcourse, ak-47's are great weapons to use against high tech aircraft and heavily armored tanks. oh and let's not forget cruise missiles.

2. They need to be tolerant to ALL religions, escpecialy Judaism

agreed. so should the jews.

3. They believe that they can destroy the country of Israel and get their land back from Israel

agreed, so do the jews. but they think they can claim the palestinian terroritories as their own.

4. The reason the terrorist's houses are being demolished, because they went to Israel to kill innocent civilians. It Israel's policy to destroy terrorist's houses

yeah... brilliant tactic. but wait, isn't israel killing innocent civilians aswell? more so than the palestinian terrorists?

5. They need to be a secular democratic republic.

there you go again forcing your beliefs onto them. who the hell are you to tell them how to live? how the hell are you to condemn their religion and say it's wrong? just because it does not fit your standards does not make it wrong.

Being an extremist Muslim supporting terrorism is not helping them

being someone that kills innocent civilians "for world peace" isn't that great either.

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I think that someone should give the Palastinians nukes. That way they will launch them at each other and there will be no more war. After the dust settles and everyone learns there lessons then they can resettle the area. Sure a lot of people would die but it would better in the long run.

I am talking about non-radioactive hydrogen bombs, not radioactive plutonium/uranium bombs.

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so killing millions all at once with horrific weaponsof mass destruction is better than a few random terrorists killing only a few people a month...? I seriously hope you're kidding.

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Islam is actually a very peaceful religion.It doesn't nurish violence.Just because some of the terrorists are just Muslims doesn't mean that Islam is a violent religion.What if the Terrorists were Christians?Would you have called Christianity a violent Religion.I myself is a muslim.I think it is prejudice.Osama Bin Laden may have caused destruction in the USA but that doesn't mean that there would be a crusade.As for why we are (the muslims)behind the times?Are you judging only the Middle-East Muslims or the Muslims of the whole world?We muslims of Bangladesh have progressed very much and around 30 to 40 percent people I know have become westerned.Bangladeshis are breaking a hecka lot of Muslim codes that's why Bangladeshis have progrssed ,while Middle -east Muslims mainly Palestine can't progress because they were plagued by wars with Israel who are getting help from USA.(I have proof)

Also The names of Jesus christ and Moses are mentioned in Holy Quran ,I heard rumuors which I quite belive.

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I think that someone should give the Palastinians nukes. That way they will launch them at each other and there will be no more war. After the dust settles and everyone learns there lessons then they can resettle the area. Sure a lot of people would die but it would better in the long run.

I am talking about non-radioactive hydrogen bombs, not radioactive plutonium/uranium bombs.
I wouldn't go this far but I think America should just change the way we look at Israel, saying that they can do no wrong. Israel often times ignores everything the US does. I vaguely remember after the Sabra and Shatilla massacres when Ariel Sharon (then tank commander) said on Army Radio that the world cannot teach the Jews humanity. And that they can teach us humanity. What he was responding to was the massacres in the Sabra and Shatilla camps which Israel denies to taking part in.

Basically, we should stop blindly following Israel and become more critical of their actions. Not say that they must check in before retaliating. But that when we see a dividing wall is very offensive to some, they should make an effort to consider the other side. Israel hardly considers the Palestinian requests. A major request is the right of return. Palestinians want to go back to the homes that they lost. But by allowing the Palestinians to do that, the Muslim/Christian population of Israel would probably reach 30-40%. This isn't what Israel wants but it has made no effort to consider the Palestinian side. That's what makes the Palestinians so angry.....

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They aren't just a few terrorist killings. There are terrorist attacks almost every week. 1000's die. Besides the conflict there destabalizes the entire region and could escalate into a major conflict fairly easily. Millions of deaths now are better than billions of the course of centuries.

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saying to kill everyone in israel and palestine now instead of letting a very small percentage of the population get killed by terrorists is retarded at best.

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