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-DarthMaul- September 8th, 2004 03:17 PM

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but i mean in Thier place, being a palastinian, in thier current situations, and problems.

vladtemplar September 8th, 2004 03:28 PM

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I would not want to be a martyr, thats for sure. I feel sorry for them, but I believe violence only leads to violence. There has to be a peaceful solution.

-DarthMaul- September 8th, 2004 03:30 PM

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but the whole world thinks of you(being a palastinian) of being a terrorist. and there is no hope for your freedom(i dont think they will ever get freedom), then what would you do? peace wouldnt lead to anything would it?

vladtemplar September 8th, 2004 03:36 PM

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If every single Palestinian gave up their weapons, started to teach their children to be tolerant to other religions, realise that Israel is not going away, start rebuilding government infrastructure, ask UN for humanitarian help, stop blowing themselves up, become an independant Republic separeted from religion, then it will all work out

Dreadnought[DK] September 8th, 2004 04:03 PM

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^ that will happen when israel pulls out.

-DarthMaul- September 8th, 2004 04:11 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vladtemplar
If every single Palestinian gave up their weapons, started to teach their children to be tolerant to other religions, realise that Israel is not going away, start rebuilding government infrastructure, ask UN for humanitarian help, stop blowing themselves up, become an independant Republic separeted from religion, then it will all work out

You still didnt answer my question this is what needs to be done from palastinians, not what you have done of you were one.

-palastinians dont have weapons, if they did they wouldnt be blowing them selves up.
-Palastinians are already tolerent to other religions except judism because of what israelies do(christian and muslim palastinians face the same problems).other religions also need to teach thier children to be tolerent to other religions.
-they propably know israel isnt gowing away since the most powerful nation in the world 100% backs it up.
-they cant build government infastractue they're having thier own haouses demolished by tanks, and AMERICAN apaches every day.
-when ever palastine or any arab country asks for help in the UN america Vetos and no one can do anything about it.
-again, all they have is bombs to use. if you give them weapons then they would propably get thier lands back.
-what do you mean by independent republic state.

Tekk9 September 8th, 2004 04:23 PM

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Here's a little factoid. Israel is a very mixed nation. They already have an Arab Knesset which helps establish policies for Israel. Here's the fact. In the year 2025, the Arab/Christian/Muslim/Palestinian population of Israel will multiply several times over. It'll be a small wonder that one day, an Arab would like to run for Prime Minister of Israel. If this would ever happen, the Jewish state of Israel probably won't stay Jewish for very long. Muslims as well as Christians could rise up and start deciding policy for Israel. With the growing population, these candidates will have a better chance at winning the election. Smart Israelis realize this and that is why they want to make peace so the Arabs/Christians/Muslims/Palestinians have a nation they can call their own. But sadly, its the stupid Israelis from the Likud party running the show....

If someone from say, the Labor party rose up, there might be a better chance at brokering a peace deal. For now, the war will ravage both sides of the conflict.

vladtemplar September 8th, 2004 04:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DarthMaul
You still didnt answer my question this is what needs to be done from palastinians, not what you have done of you were one.

-palastinians dont have weapons, if they did they wouldnt be blowing them selves up.
-Palastinians are already tolerent to other religions except judism because of what israelies do(christian and muslim palastinians face the same problems).other religions also need to teach thier children to be tolerent to other religions.
-they propably know israel isnt gowing away since the most powerful nation in the world 100% backs it up.
-they cant build government infastractue they're having thier own haouses demolished by tanks, and AMERICAN apaches every day.
-when ever palastine or any arab country asks for help in the UN america Vetos and no one can do anything about it.
-again, all they have is bombs to use. if you give them weapons then they would propably get thier lands back.
-what do you mean by independent republic state.

1. Explosives, grenades and AK-47s are weapons. Palestinians have them
2. They need to be tolerant to ALL religions, escpecialy Judaism
3. They believe that they can destroy the country of Israel and get their land back from Israel
4. The reason the terrorist's houses are being demolished, because they went to Israel to kill innocent civilians. It Israel's policy to destroy terrorist's houses
5. They need to be a secular democratic republic.
Being an extremist Muslim supporting terrorism is not helping them

-DarthMaul- September 8th, 2004 05:10 PM

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-yes they do have them but how many do? 10-30 militians thats all.
-they ARE tolrent to ALLreligions, but jews hate them, why would palastinians love the jews if they hate them? jews arent tolerant to islam, so why would we respect them? i might say more but i better shut up befor some one calls me a preecher or a terrorist or soemthing...
-no they dont, who can destroy a country backed up by a super super world power?
-no they dont know who terrorists are or else they would have kille dthem, they are destroying EVERYONE's houses ecspecially in a city called, Rafah . Israel also does terrorist acts aginst Civilians. and if you want to speak of palastine/israel please go here:http://www.gamingforums.com/showthread.php?t=142899 .
-they canyt run a government! no one can support them right now! you will never know this! i dont think russia shows what happens in palastine every day, in america thy dont.
how can they be deocratic when they have two world powers aginst them?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vladtemplar
Being an extremist Muslim supporting terrorism is not helping them

Btw: are you calling me that?

Buddy Jesus September 8th, 2004 05:35 PM

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dreadnought u need to go run up a friggin tree. Stop getting hung up on what I said putin shoud do. Lose the one track and open it up.


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