-no, it was a war against the non-believers that attacked us (Islam).
-they did start it, and now it IS over, you don’t see us fighting them any more.
Sadly however it is not over; nothing has been solved, all the hatred still remains.
War is but a symptom of something far nastier and more insidious, something that walks the streets in the guise of righteousness and good, something that twists all that was once pure and innocent into something unclean.
But that isn’t really the point and I’m finding myself getting sidetracked into a lecture on morality; this verse demonstrates a certain hatred for the disbelievers that is not limited to those who attack Islam.
"Arabs have always been a highly civilised, intelligent and scientific people. Most modern mathematics was either created or preserved by the Arabs after the Roman Empire dissolved. They are highly hospitable and courteous. For centuries the Arabs were the most advaned civilisation on the planet."
First of all learn to spell. Secondly If the Arabs are so damned intelligent then why do they still perform midevil acts of violence?
First learn to spell. Second, what is it that they do thats so "midevil (sic)" (bearing in mind that the medieval period was relatively peaceful compared to the Early Modern and Modern periods) compared to the rest of the world?
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Christ man, this is the 21st century and they are still chopping off heads.
So? In Texas they give the lethal injection, in other places they shoot someone. Doesn't really matter about details... you're still dead at the end of it.
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How many contributions to society have they made recently?
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As a previous poster eluded, they do not condemn the violence of their own religion. This is not good. Also there are not just a few radical followers.
Eluded? Spelling is minor... malapropism is not. Don't use words which you don't understand.
I think you find that many do condemn the violence... you just don't notice it.
Because VVVVVVVVV
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Try millions.
Where?
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This is a major problem folks. Once they get their hands on nukes it is all over WW3.
Funnily enough thats what Americans said of the Commies and vice versa....
"The voice of the people is the cry from Hell"
Francis Atterbury (1662-1732), Bishop of Rochester
"Arabs have always been a highly civilised, intelligent and scientific people. Most modern mathematics was either created or preserved by the Arabs after the Roman Empire dissolved. They are highly hospitable and courteous. For centuries the Arabs were the most advaned civilisation on the planet."
First of all learn to spell. Secondly If the Arabs are so damned intelligent then why do they still perform midevil acts of violence? Christ man, this is the 21st century and they are still chopping off heads. How many contributions to society have they made recently? As a previous poster eluded, they do not condemn the violence of their own religion. This is not good. Also there are not just a few radical followers. Try millions. This is a major problem folks. Once they get their hands on nukes it is all over WW3.
Pakistan has somewhere around 40-50 nuclear weapons and they are a strong ally of ours in the war on terror. In fact, they do more in bringing in terrorists in their country and by having skirmishes along their border with pro-Taliban tribes. They are the only nation that is aggressively pursuing Osama Bin Laden next to the United States.
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Hmmmm... can't find it. I think you're wrong, man.
"I do know good muslims but that is because they live in america and come into contact with other religions all the time." Hold on just a sec. I said i did know good muslims but they have had the chance to see other religions and not just their own. I have something against the EXTREAMESTS. In my opinion they give the rest of the muslim world a bad name. Now that's not fair to them nor the rest of the world. That's why i am so angry about what happened in Chechney. First reason they killed no slaughtered over 300 inocent children. Second reason there were Arab (forgive my spelling) mersinaries there that helped in the attack. It could be just a matter of time before something like that happens in the U.S., or somwhere else in the world. That is why i say Putin should go in to Chechney and get 300 to 350 of those muslims (men, wemen, or children) line them up infront of a fireing squad and shoot them. Retrobution must be paid thses people can not go unpunished. It is sad, because i have prayed for them but then thought to myself how can that work when they believe they are doing Gods work. Therefore i believe that in this case an eye for an eye or a hand for a hand is acceptable, because these extreamists will not reason and will not back down until the last drop of blood is spent. and this is not just for those people in Chechney but all over the world. Think about that for a little while.
the war on terror is WWIII, every county has a part to play in bringging terriosts to justice . and a tru WWIII is right around the corner as soon as Iran has its nukes which it said it could have in 3 years.
That is why i say Putin should go in to Chechney and get 300 to 350 of those muslims (men, wemen, or children) line them up infront of a fireing squad and shoot them. Retrobution must be paid thses people can not go unpunished.
Do you think that isn't a reality already, Buddy? If you have the stomach, watch these videos:
Chechnya is a hell hole. There is fighting on both sides. A dozen or so people die every single day. Russian atrocities have killed over 100,000 people in the past 5 years when fighting began again in 1999. And the terrorists aren't roses either. They constantly harrass and intimidate THEIR OWN PEOPLE, forcing them not to participate in elections and making them take up arms against Russians. Terrorists also make their own people give up their valuables so they can buy weapons. If they don't, they like to use the term "collaborator" when they unload an AK-47 magazine into a woman and her children.
Why do you think Russia has to pick a leader every time one dies in Chechnya? Because voter turnout is like ZERO! Nobody comes because they'll probably die. So for you to say that Putin should order the deaths of 350 innocents for payback isn't fair. These people have terrible lives and you'll never hear about it on CNN, MSNBC or Fox because if regular Americans found out what happens in Chechnya, the US government will find itself intervening in the near future. That's not what this government wants to do.
EDIT: And just to give a little perspective, Russa (along with Israel) has withdrawn itself from the International Court of Justice which is currently trying war criminal Slobodan Milosevic.
Pakistan has somewhere around 40-50 nuclear weapons and they are a strong ally of ours in the war on terror. In fact, they do more in bringing in terrorists in their country and by having skirmishes along their border with pro-Taliban tribes. They are the only nation that is aggressively pursuing Osama Bin Laden next to the United States.
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Hmmmm... can't find it. I think you're wrong, man.
Err other than the UK, France, Russia, China, Japan and others
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will find itself intervening in the near future.
erm... no
"The voice of the people is the cry from Hell"
Francis Atterbury (1662-1732), Bishop of Rochester
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Err other than the UK, France, Russia, China, Japan and others
Show me where those countries have made a valiant effort to capture Osama Bin Laden and other AL-Qaeda elements in Afghanistan. They are a peacekeeping force. Since Pakistan lives amongst the terrorists, it's their responsibility to bring in terrorists. And they're doing just that.
Show me where those countries have made a valiant effort to capture Osama Bin Laden and other AL-Qaeda elements in Afghanistan. They are a peacekeeping force. Since Pakistan lives amongst the terrorists, it's their responsibility to bring in terrorists. And they're doing just that.
By your reasoning then the US doesn't make a contribution either.
Your ignorance is insulting to those people not from America who risk their lives in Afghanistan and elsewhere participating in the War against Terror
"The voice of the people is the cry from Hell"
Francis Atterbury (1662-1732), Bishop of Rochester
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