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Old September 3rd, 2004   #101
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that may be so but please remain calm anyway.
ill try. but your not muslim and you dont know how it feels to be overwhelmed by all this crap they say that people might take seriously.

so no one answered my questions yet. adding to the questions i dont care what time or religion they are, terror is terror weather its a muslim/jew/christian/ or any religon, any time is terror.
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ill try. but your not muslim and you dont know how it feels to be overwhelmed by all this crap they say that people might take seriously.
I'm not muslim. But all this crap pisses me off too. Anyway try to keep your calm. You wouldn't want to show them they're right, don't you?


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ill try. but your not muslim and you dont know how it feels to be overwhelmed by all this crap they say that people might take seriously.
you are of course right about that and i can only imagine what it must be like to be so grossly stereotyped. still i would prefere that members don't vent their frustrations at others (however well deserved it may be). this goes for all!
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so no one answered my questions yet
sorry, what was the question again?

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the ones listed in post #95 but i was talking to Vladtemplar, Beef(i think he posted here), Eagle.
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It would appear that Islam is going through the period of violence and upheaval that Christianity went through a few hundred years ago. The main reason, I think, that the Muslim world didn't keep up with Europe in economical and social advancement is because Christianity couldn't conquer it, and whatever Christianity couldn't conquer it in effect put an embargo on. Since the rest of the world, in one way or another, was taken over by Christianity, this had the effect of isolating Muslim nations. Look at all the other countries that have advanced: In the Americas, Christianity was forced on the local populace. In Asia, Christianity was integrated into their current religions. Not surprising, since the Asians tend to have a different way of viewing things and don't see any problem with blending different beliefs of different religions together. I'm not trying to be mean to Islam, and if anything I'm being critical of Christianity. It seems that whenever Christianity finds a populace that it cannot either conquer or subdue, it says "Screw you guys, I'm playing with my toys over here instead."

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How about the more violent verses in the Qu'Ran? Like (and I forget the exact wording)
"And when you meet in regular battle those who disbelieve, smite their necks; and, when you have overcome them, by causing great slaughter among them, bind fast the fetters - then afterwards either release them as a favour or by taking ransom - until the war lays down its burdens. That is the ordinance. And if ALLAH had so pleased, HE could have punished them Himself, but HE has willed that HE may try some of you by others. And those who are killed in the way of ALLAH - HE will never render their works vain."
Yes I think it was something like that. Rather militant wouldn’t you say?
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i forgot to add why arab countries are backwarded, america has all of our scientists.
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Default Re: Islam- Religion of violence

When people start saying to me about how evil the Muslim religion is I like to think back to the Inquisition and Crusades where genocide and terrorist-type actions were the norm for Christian behavior. It was even accepted. How different Catholicism is today from then? So how different are certain sects in a thousand years? Muslims do not breed hate, people do.
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Are Muslims not also people?
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How about the more violent verses in the Qu'Ran? Like (and I forget the exact wording)
"And when you meet in regular battle those who disbelieve, smite their necks; and, when you have overcome them, by causing great slaughter among them, bind fast the fetters - then afterwards either release them as a favour or by taking ransom - until the war lays down its burdens. That is the ordinance. And if ALLAH had so pleased, HE could have punished them Himself, but HE has willed that HE may try some of you by others. And those who are killed in the way of ALLAH - HE will never render their works vain."
Yes I think it was something like that. Rather militant wouldn’t you say?
Yes, it seems militant, but no more so than parts of the Bible referring to the proper way to rape women in battle (according to Deuteronomy, in battle a man should take the woman as his concubine for a period of time, and after which if she wishes to leave she can), or the references by Moses to go and slaughter women, children, friend and family when they were not obeying God? I believe that was right after they had escaped from Egypt. What about every battle in the Bible? God never seemed to have mercy there. I think you need to be a bit more educated about your own texts before referencing someone else's.
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