Guess whos leading the protests at RNC?

[Cataphract]

I'm almost done moving, and for the next few days, I will be moving AGAIN (this time to my dorm). So that's why I haven't been talking much.

Some comments:

I believe everyone has a right to pray to his or her God when and where they want to. I don't hate the rich. I don't pity the poor. I believe the money I make belongs to me and my family, not some mid level governmental functionary be it Democratic or Republican! I believe that it doesn't take a village to raise a child, it takes two parents. I think owning a gun doesn't make you a killer, it makes you a smart American. I also think if you are too stupid to know how a ballot works, I don't want you deciding who should be running the most powerful nation in the world for the next four years.

So why don't you vote (or support) the Libertarian candidate, Michael Badnarik? Because it is exactly as Pat Buchanan says: the Republicans have lost their way. Republicans are supposed to be against big government, but they do their damned-est to maintain it. Republicans are supposed to be about nationalism and a strong American economy and high tariffs, yet in economic policy they promote globalism and outsourcing. Republicans are supposed to be about "fair taxes," yet the rich pay lower taxes (as a percentage of income) than the middle class under them. And the Republicans are supposed to be about letting the people decide for themselves what is best, yet they try at every turn to enforce laws telling people what they can and can't do in their own bedrooms, whether they can get an abortion (if they want to), whether gays can marry, whether people can buy marijuana legally (i myself don't smoke pot), and they are supposed to be against this authoritarian central government yet they seek to increase its power via the Patriot Act.

In reality, Republicans today are united by their longing to use the government to establish Christian moral laws, and their imagined conspiracy theories about the "liberal media empire." The Libertarians are the real Republicans. They are the true heirs of Lincoln, TR, Harding, and Eisenhower. The Republicans of today are really just "intolerant liberals" (an oxymoron). The real choice should be between liberals and libertarians. Visit www.lp.org to see what I'm talking about.

Actually I remember during the DNC when like every news channel covered it....

Now, Half the channels are covering it and half of them are covering protests

What are you smoking? I remember when Fox News and CNN and MSNBC and all those channels would only show the keynote speeches for each of the four nights of the DNC. In order to see, for example, Al Sharpton's or Ted Kennedy's speeches you had to change it to C-SPAN. Or they would be showing Jimmy Carter's speech and they would cut back to the studio for 10 minutes WHILE THE SPEECH WAS STILL GOING ON so they could do their petty liberal-conservative debates. But none of those interruptions seem to exist right now, during the RNC. And during the DNC, I heard the Republican National Committee go on and on and on about how Kerry "is the most liberal member of the Senate" (I have already shown how this is a misleading statement, because it only takes into account his 2003 voting record), more than I actually heard repetition of what Kerry and Edwards said in their speeches.

Also, something I noticed is that the volume of the speeches for the DNC was higher on CNN than on Fox News; and for the RNC's speeches, Fox News and CNN suddenly have the same volume.

The media fucking sucks ass right now. Someone should go right into their little news studios and smash all their equipment with baseball bats (I prefer wood, it makes a nice cracking sound), smack them upside the head, and threaten to rape their moms and all their relatives if they don't fucking straighten up and give us objective news with substance, not this stupid "he said/she said" shit they have right now. This is the way the media operates right now:

Instead of actually doing research on something, news teams just invite a liberal and a conservative onto the show and have them duke it out, and hope that somehow the viewer gets it in the middle. Besides the fact that the truth isn't always in the middle, the viewer is also screwed because he/she assumes that their guy (the liberal or the conservative) is right and that the other guy is lying. So, the viewer only pays attention to the side of the story that agrees with their political ideology, and ignores the rest as just "propaganda" (although sometimes it is just propaganda).

Not only that, but when they interview people on the news channels and they ask them questions, they always ask the same lame-brained questions that the politicians already have a rehearsed answer for. And then when the guy gives his answer, they never EVER ask a follow-up question. They NEVER ask the tough questions. And when they do, it isn't really tough at all.

I predict California will vote Republican.

I predict Nevada will vote Democratic, so there.

[NiteStryker]

Originally Posted by Cataphract

I'm almost done moving, and for the next few days, I will be moving AGAIN (this time to my dorm). So that's why I haven't been talking much.

Yea I thought u have been unusually quiet latly...

Originally Posted by Cataphract

So why don't you vote (or support) the Libertarian candidate, Michael Badnarik?

Because most people havent even heard of him, and he has no chance of living.

Originally Posted by Cataphract

Because it is exactly as Pat Buchanan says: the Republicans have lost their way. Republicans are supposed to be against big government, but they do their damned-est to maintain it.

I am a republican and I am agianst big government!

Originally Posted by Cataphract

What are you smoking? I remember when Fox News and CNN and MSNBC and all those channels would only show the keynote speeches for each of the four nights of the DNC.

Because most reporters (Van gretta, O'Reilly, etc) had advanced copies of the speeches and saw nothing but false remarks that were just preeching to the converted. Waste of time.

Originally Posted by Cataphract

In order to see, for example, Al Sharpton's or Ted Kennedy's speeches you had to change it to C-SPAN.

Oh yes, big demand to see Al Sharpton's speeches....

Originally Posted by Cataphract

The media fucking sucks ass right now.

Now? It kinda always has.

Originally Posted by Cataphract

Someone should go right into their little news studios and smash all their equipment with baseball bats (I prefer wood, it makes a nice cracking sound),

Originally Posted by Cataphract

smack them upside the head,

eh...

Originally Posted by Cataphract

and threaten to rape their moms and all their relatives

Too far...

Originally Posted by Cataphract

Instead of actually doing research on something, news teams just invite a liberal and a conservative onto the show and have them duke it out, and hope that somehow the viewer gets it in the middle.

While that is true, the reporters actually get info, then present their points to someone who opposes their views...problem is that the person who opposes the view is the one who didnt do research or anything...

Originally Posted by Cataphract

Not only that, but when they interview people on the news channels and they ask them questions, they always ask the same lame-brained questions that the politicians already have a rehearsed answer for.

Not O'Reilly...

Originally Posted by Cataphract

They NEVER ask the tough questions. And when they do, it isn't really tough at all.

O'Reilly agian...he doesnt let the politicial or whomever dodge or anything....


I kno im comin off as an O'Reilly kiss ass but hes the only reporter on FOX news that I watch and can give examples of.

[Trojan_Ripper]

Democratic senator drops bomb on own party

By Andrea Stone, USA TODAY

NEW YORK — Democratic Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia delivered a harsh attack on his own party and its standard bearer, John Kerry, at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday and said President Bush has "the vision, the willpower and, yes, the backbone" to best protect America from terrorism.

Sen. Zell Miller (D-Ga.) addresses the Republican National Convention in Madison Square Garden Wednesday.

By Tim Dillon, USA TODAY

In searing rhetoric, Miller told Republicans that the Democratic presidential candidate was "motivated more by partisan politics than by national security" and was the wrong leader for wartime. He said Bush "is committed to providing the kind of forces it takes to root out terrorists" and is a man who can be trusted.

"He is not a slick talker, but he is a straight shooter, and where I come from, deeds mean a lot more than words,' he said. 'I have knocked on the door of this man's soul and found someone home, a God-fearing man with a good heart and a spine of tempered steel."

Miller's impassioned speech marked the first time anyone has given a keynote address to an opposing party's convention.
In 1992, he rebuked the first President Bush in a keynote speech that brought Democrats to their feet with cries of "Give them hell, Zell!" Both speeches were given in New York.

TV viewers in Atlanta and Augusta, Ga., could watch Miller's full 1992 speech on local stations this week, courtesy of the state Democratic Party. But those tuning in Wednesday night witnessed a different take on his party and presidential candidate.

"No one should dare to even think about being the commander-in-chief of this country if he doesn't believe with all his heart that our soldiers are liberators abroad and defenders of freedom at home," Miller, a former Marine, said. "But don't waste your breath telling that to the leaders of my party today. In their warped way of thinking, America is the problem, not the solution."

Miller has said his ties with the Democratic Party "unraveled" after he arrived in Washington in 2000. A populist hero to Southern progressives for his positions on race and his efforts to increase funding for education, Miller found himself out of step with his party's leadership on Capitol Hill. He soon stopped caucusing with Democrats.

In his address Wednesday, Miller focused on national security and the urgent needs brought on by the Sept. 11 attacks. Linking Kerry with Massachusetts' other senator, Edward Kennedy" a name guaranteed to elicit boos in the Republican hall" he said the pair "opposed the very weapons system that won the Cold War and that is now winning the war on terror."

Comparing Kerry to "an auctioneer selling off our national security," Miller listed 10 aircraft and weapons systems" that Sen. Kerry opposed" but were used in Afghanistan and Iraq.
"This is the man who wants to be the commander-in-chief of our U.S. armed forces?" he asked incredulously. "U.S. forces armed with what? Spitballs?"

Kerry voted against large Pentagon spending bills that included many weapons systems three times in his 20-year career; he voted for the spending bills 16 times. When Vice President Cheney was Defense secretary from 1989 to 1993, Cheney recommended ending some of the systems Miller cited.

In an allusion to controversial TV ads by a group attacking Kerry's Vietnam combat record and anti-war activities, he said, "As a war protester, Kerry blamed our military." When Kerry testified to Congress in 1971, he recounted stories other troops had told of atrocities they had committed and said he blamed their leaders for putting them in that position.

Miller said Kerry "would use military force only if approved by the United Nations." But in his nomination acceptance speech in Boston last month, Kerry said, "I will never give any nation or international institution a veto over our national security."

Democrats say Miller is being disingenuous by refusing to change parties. But Miller, who says Bush will be the first Republican presidential candidate to get his vote, has a standard response: "I was born a Democrat, and I'm going to die a Democrat." http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...tm?POE=NEWISVA


Even some of the hard core Democrats such as Senator Zell Miller have the nads to stand up and see RIGHT from WRONG with their support of the best candidate, whether it be their party or not. Skerrys own kids will end up voting George W. Bush.

Hell, I might even vote for Zell if he ran 2008

[NiteStryker]

Nice.....even dems dont like dems!

No honor amoung thieves, eh?