The Afterlife

***grishank*** · August 9th, 2004

I've noticed that there was no debate on the afterlife, what do you people believe.

I believe in reincarnation...with a twist.
I believe that everything has a soul, but each type of creature a different type of soul, humans reincarnate as humans, dogs as dogs, trees as trees etc.
I do not believe that the actions of your past life affect the status you get in your next life.
I believe that each life is a lesson and a test, if you pass the test you soul becomes slightly closer to perfection. Once your soul reaches perfection you have no need to reincarnate and then become an element (not the periodic table type!) and see the world in perfect clarity, and will be able to commune on the highest level with the God and Godess.
As for karma, I do believe in karma, but only in the sense that good actions lead to you having a clear concience and evil actions lead to you being dissatisfied with yourself. The deities to not punish/reward. (although they may give you something you asked for in a spell*).

* a spell is very similar to a Christian prayer, it is, simply put a ritual where you ask the godess and God for something you desire and send this information to them in the form of energy. A Wiccan prayer is simply when you focus on communing with the Godess and God, in order to speak to them or ask them for advice/guidance etc.

***D.Sporky!*** · August 9th, 2004

I believe in a heaven and a Hell. Those who accepted Jesus as their savior while on earth go to heaven, and those that did not would go to hell.

Steakboy · August 9th, 2004

. . . uh . . . yeh . . . . .

I believe in heaven. If you accept Christ as your savior (truely accept, not just say so), I believe that you are sent to heaven, during the rapture. Then, all those in heaven will praise God forever, given perfect bodies, and be with our fellow Christians. As for what you were saying about prayers and such, I believe that if you read the Bible, and take it's sayings to heart, and the Word is in you, the Lord will give you whatever you want. This does not mean that he'll just give you a Corvette. I mean that if the Word is truely in you, you will ask something to benefit others, or to glorify God. That's what I believe.

Edit - Oh, yeh. And like Sporky just said(whoes post wasn't there when I started typing), I also believe in hell. If a person does not accept Christ, they go to hell. I do not believe in levels of hell (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc.) I just believe that hell is hell. Nothing more, nothing less, just eternal torment, and removal from God . . . .

***NiteStryker*** · August 9th, 2004

i think that when u die...you die...thats it. Nothing fancy or anything, you just die

***grishank*** · August 9th, 2004

So if what you say is true, and a person leads a good life, giving to those in need, doing community work, giving back to the environment, not being spiteful or hurting people's feelings, but the were Wiccan/Buddhist/Hindu/Other, and did not believe in Jesus, they would go to jolly old hell.

Just because they didn't believe in Jesus. I find that almost disgusting.

That is why I cannot abide by Christianity, it refuses to accept other religions.

Well I don't believe in hell anyway or a devil, I do not need the threat of eternal damnation to make me do good, I like doing it for the sake of doing good.

Oh I would like to add to my post above that I believe that during reincarnation, between incarnations there is a brief period in a place called the Summerlands, a pleasant place, where your soul can recooperate, and reflect on the lesson it has just been taught.

[EDIT]Very epicurean nitestryker you may find this interesting http://www.epicurus.net/principal.html [EDIT]

***Greenvalv*** · August 9th, 2004

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Originally Posted by grishank

So if what you say is true, and a person leads a good life, giving to those in need, doing community work, giving back to the environment, not being spiteful or hurting people's feelings, but the were Wiccan/Buddhist/Hindu/Other, and did not believe in Jesus, they would go to jolly old hell.

Just because they didn't believe in Jesus. I find that almost disgusting.

No matter how good you are, you sin. And God finds sin disgusting, and without the blood of Jesus to wash away your sins you will go to hell, because God cannot live with sin.

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Originally Posted by grishank

Well I don't believe in hell anyway or a devil, I do not need the threat of eternal damnation to make me do good, I like doing it for the sake of doing good.

You can be the most sinful person in the world, but the moment you accept Christ as saviour you are able to go to heaven.

***SnuFFeh*** · August 9th, 2004

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Originally Posted by DarthSporky

Those who accepted Jesus as their savior while on earth go to heaven, and those that did not would go to hell.

Looks like i'm off to hell :lol:

***grishank*** · August 9th, 2004

So basically it all hinges on Christ.
I find it slightly odd that in your religion someone who has lead a better life than someone else who has not ends up worst. You do not accept other religions even if they are based on love and forgiveness?

~~Damage Jackal~~ · August 9th, 2004

i think we would just die and rot in the ground in a wooden box.

***Vertical345*** · August 9th, 2004

i believe that if you live a good life you will go to heaven, if you dont, you will go to hell. I dont completly agree with christianity (even tho im christian) because you dont nessicarily have to accept christ or anything else. If you live well you will probably go to heaven.