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Octovon August 10th, 2004 06:53 AM
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In my opinion. When you die, you die. Nothing special. Eventually you decompose, and your corporeal form disapears. I do not believe in a heaven or hell, I'm not that optimistic about the afterlife. I dont believe in an afterlife, you simply die, there is no 'black void', or 'white tunnel' or whatever, you just die.

X-C August 10th, 2004 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Octovon
In my opinion. When you die, you die. Nothing special. Eventually you decompose, and your corporeal form disapears. I do not believe in a heaven or hell, I'm not that optimistic about the afterlife. I dont believe in an afterlife, you simply die, there is no 'black void', or 'white tunnel' or whatever, you just die.
Yeah this was my old opinion on death before I found religion. Really in my opinion, religion has opened new pathways in my life. Even if I live under this false lie for the rest of my life, I know I am going to die under a false impression that I will be moving on to better things. I think it is better to live this kind of way instead of dying knowing there is nothing for you when you die. I am pretty sure I am correct that I will go to heaven or hell when I die, but it is better to know that then know I will just simply cease to exist.

SpiderGoat August 10th, 2004 07:18 AM
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I find it terrible that God loves some of his children more than the others, and condemns many of them to an eternity in hell. Wouldn't a good parent punish them for a while in the purgatory, and then forgive them?

colonel_bob August 10th, 2004 07:30 AM
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I find it terrible that God loves some of his children more than the others, and condemns many of them to an eternity in hell. Wouldn't a good parent punish them for a while in the purgatory, and then forgive them?
I thought I read something about hell origionally being a place apart from heaven, where the only punishment was that you could never be with God because you had sinned so much and not repented. Then all the people in hell decided to punish themselves, because they had had so many chances to fix the error of their ways. Kind of like when you hit yourself for doing something stupid, but for all eternity.

D.Sporky! August 10th, 2004 07:49 AM
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I find it terrible that God loves some of his children more than the others, and condemns many of them to an eternity in hell. Wouldn't a good parent punish them for a while in the purgatory, and then forgive them?
No, he doesn't love some of his children more than others. But he hates sin, and some of his children arn't covered by the blood of Jesus, and sin cannot get into heaven.

grishank August 10th, 2004 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Octovon
In my opinion. When you die, you die. Nothing special. Eventually you decompose, and your corporeal form disapears. I do not believe in a heaven or hell, I'm not that optimistic about the afterlife. I dont believe in an afterlife, you simply die, there is no 'black void', or 'white tunnel' or whatever, you just die.
I think that is more positive than you think. The Epicurean view states that we are atoms, and when we die we go back to atoms, we are not sensitive in death, therefore we can feel no pain in death, therefore death is bliss because you want nothing, because you are dead.

Not my views but interesting none the less.

NiteStryker August 10th, 2004 09:09 AM
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No matter how good you are, you sin. And God finds sin disgusting, and without the blood of Jesus to wash away your sins you will go to hell, because God cannot live with sin.
Spare me the preaching

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You can be the most sinful person in the world, but the moment you accept Christ as saviour you are able to go to heaven.
Ok so I can go grab an AK-47 and several pipe bombs and go on a spree, but as long as I accept Christ im good to go? Vice Versa, I could sell everything I had, constantly donate all my money while using some to buy food for the poor, give blood, recycle, never hurt a thing, but because I dont accept christ, im goin to hell?

Thats F.U.B.A.R

colonel_bob August 10th, 2004 09:33 AM
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I think that is more positive than you think. The Epicurean view states that we are atoms, and when we die we go back to atoms, we are not sensitive in death, therefore we can feel no pain in death, therefore death is bliss because you want nothing, because you are dead.

Not my views but interesting none the less.
Have you ever read the last two books of the Ender's Game series? They have some stuff in there that sounds alot like that, and it makes sense, if you think about it.

grishank August 10th, 2004 10:53 AM
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Spare me the preaching



Ok so I can go grab an AK-47 and several pipe bombs and go on a spree, but as long as I accept Christ im good to go? Vice Versa, I could sell everything I had, constantly donate all my money while using some to buy food for the poor, give blood, recycle, never hurt a thing, but because I dont accept christ, im goin to hell?

Thats F.U.B.A.R
Precisely.

Damage Jackal August 10th, 2004 11:18 AM
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so if i say right now i accept christ etc etc then i will go to heaven?


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