Michael Moore
 

Now I know this news is fairly old, but I was recently reminded of it after seeing an ad for his movie.

Now, if I remember correctly, he stated that he had video of the prisoners abuses long before any high government offical learned of these happenings. He did not release these videos because he thought people would think he released them only to get publicity for his movie.

I think that this was a very wrong and hurtful decision. I cant believe someone would be so stupid as to let people be brutally tortured because you were afraid people would think you were pulling a publicity stunt. On a radio show a caller brought up the point that Nick Berg might still be alive if these video were released earlier. I, however, feel that he would still have been killed because those terrorists would still 'seek revenge' for the prisoners that were tortured. I still think that Michael Moore was an absolute idiot to let these abuses occur while he had evidence that could stop them.

Although, as I write this, I wonder if he really did have those tapes at all or just said it afterwards to do the thing he said he was trying not to, get publicity for himself and his movie.

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No Smitty, he didn’t have any proof of prisoner abuse or he should be tried and found guilty along with the rest of them presently. No way did he have intelligence before the higher ups per se, Impossible.

Michael Moore had no evidence anymore than you or I would suspect this type of abuse happening in any prison across America, or any other part of the world. It happens, and you’re not a crystal ball reader to throw the subject out there like fish bait for readers to gobble up

Micheal Moore is nothing more than a cheap whore publicity artist out to make a buck. What he has to offer will soon fade and he will be out on the streets, possibly found at a corner near you.

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He in my opinion is one of the ugliest persons to ever be born on this planet, in a non deformed way. And he overexagerates his clames WAYYYY to far.

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I suppose he never had the tapes, but he does seem like a kinda guy who would do such a thing.


I actually want to see his movie, just to see waht he puts in it, although I dont want to give money for him to line his pockets with.

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Well even if he had those tapes and pictures, if he released them would you think they were real?

Well he sure isn't Fabio, but his appearance plays not role whatsoever on his ability to direct documentaries, which he is quite skilled at.

Well only a little but in a way to prove his point, obviously. I've seen almost all his films (Bowling for Columbine, Roger & Me, Pets or Meat: The Return to Flint and Canadian Bacon) and noticed that he only exaggerates his claims in Bowling for Columbine (and Canadian Bacon, but thats a comedy movie that pokes fun at American and Canadian stereotypes).

I want to see Farenheit 9/11 and can probably get into the theatre to see it here. I know its Rated R in the US, but in Canada, most films are brought down one level than their American rating so it will probably something like AA or PG-13 or something (I can't remember the stupid ratings anyway). It did win the Palme D'or at Cannes so its bound to be good.

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I can't wait to see Farenheit 451 this weekend when it comes out.

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I thought it's Fahrenheit 9/11? I also want to see it :)

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Michael Moore worries. It's good for democracy (or what it remains about it). USA needs more people like him. The world needs more people like him. I love this man.

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No.

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All people like him do is start shit.

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yes he does, does he not?

Much easier just to accept everything that happens in the world, much easier just to think what you are told to think. Much easier to not question anything.

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What wrong with Michael Moore? Just because he criticizes the goverment etc. he is a moron? It is good to see movies that criticize something even when you don't totally agree with them. I rather see a movie where the USA goverment or any other goverment or any other group with lots if influence is criticized then a movie where they show you "how good" this goverment/organisation/... is.

Sayinf that he is a tard because is movies suck is not really a good argument unless you explain why they suck), it is like me saying "Bush sucks because his policy sucks".

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Hoooo...you're sooooooooo right...Let's brush all problems under the carpet, never ask a question and morality will be safe. Ain't it the most important?

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I ment negative shit. Big differance between positive and negative trouble.

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Shit is seldom meant as positive.

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And when you consider how hard people have tried to stop his films being released and his books being published, it makes you wonder about your so-called freedom of speech. All those people do is prove every point Michael Moore makes, but of course they won't let themselves see it that way.

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I really could care less about freedom of speech if it means we can sabotage this guys liberally biased video.

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Are you suffering from somekind of brain disorder? Critizism is good, I would't cry if somebody made a book/movie about the "evil/bad/stupid" liberals/democrats, i probablyt would laugh at it and take some points into consideration. We need Critizism.

PS: both sides are biased.

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Critism is good when it is helping your cause, but not when it isn't helping ours, which is keeping this retard Kerry out of office.

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Just so you can get a general idea of how Michael Moore exagerates his "truth", I found a website. http://www.moorewatch.com/

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His truth is just as good or even better then the truth of that retard in office (bush). These kinds of sites are biased just as any anti Kerry/Bush/Pope/evil mother site.

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yeah the dudes pretty fat.

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Yeah and he has the ugliest clothes ever.

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Exactly how Disney did not want to distribute Farenheit 9/11. If Disney released the movie, then it could lose its tax breaks on Disneyland in Florida, a state whose governor is the President's brother, the target of this film.

People who want to shut Moore down obviously don't like freedom of speech, they should all move to communist China so they could feel at home with the ruling party and there stance on freedom of speech and democracy. I guess its just too bad when someone points out obvious faults with an incompetent leader such as Bush.

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Or we could stay here where we like it and continue to get our way.

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Michael Moore's opinions are goodies for a lot of holier-than-thou people out there.

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Which says everything I need to know about you. You claim to be a patriot? And yet you stand against everything that supposedly makes America what it is. Interesting take on patriotism, there.

That's YOUR opinion. What makes it any more valid than his? I'd love to hear your reasoning.

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Michael Moore is a liar, pure and simple. Oh, and I know this is irrevelant, but he's fat and ugly!


I still have no idea how his piece of fiction, Bowling for Columbine, managed to pass off as a documentary and win an Oscar award. Why fiction? He embellishes the truth or even lies outright on numerous occasions.

As for Mickey Moore-on's latest crockumentary, go read this.

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Disney makes movie like Bambi.

Tell me how Disney associating themselves with a politically based movie could do them any good.

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there had to be shit started in the first place in order for someone like himself to bring everyone else's attention to it.

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That’s right. So look out for the pile of shit that has evolved into a speaking pile of shit.

I always thought he was Canadian guess he just looks Canadian.

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please explain to me how he is a liar, and regardless if he is fat and ugly, does that give you room to criticise him for that? if anything, he is standing up for the average american citizen and stating his view point as one. and what kind of purpose is there in indicating an anti-michael moore site anyway ? anyone that has a dislike for a person can easily do the same thing but that doesnt mean that their view-points on this person or their theories is concrete.

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lol awesome...

Micheal Moore does exaggerate way too much. I'm sure he severely edits all these things. I love it when on the trailers all the house representives are like "no. i have nothing to talk about." or something. lol That's all our reactions. Who the hell would want to talk to Micheal Moore? I wouldn't be surprised if every other shot they're thirty feet ahead of where they were lol


Now this movie I wanna see lol
http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica....ailer_lrg.html

OMG! the left one is so funny!

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Noone of us can tell for sure if Michael Moore is a liar or not. Maybe he is, or maybe those people claim that are.
So instead of flaming Moore start to turn on your brains and try to find some arguments against the points he makes in his movie.
It seems in Bowling for Columbine he tried to find a reason why the US have such a problem with people killing other people. And his theory does seem to make sense.

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If you'd read his books you'd see that he extensively uses a lot of resources and adds notes to almost anything he writes as to where his information came from.

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Well he just exagerates stuff so much. Here is an example:

He sais that president Bush spent 48% of the first eight weeks in office on vacation. This is true. Half of those days he was either at his ranch or that presidential getaway place Fort Noxx or whatever. What Michail Moore purpously failed to mention was that while at these places he was having meetings with foreign leaders and doing his job at his vacation spots. I honestly see nothing wrong with that. It is like me taking my work from school and doing it at home. I am just moving it around. He purpously didn't add that to make it look like the president was slacking off 1/2 of his first eight weeks.

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He exaggerates because his movies are propaganda :)
Still they have some valid points.

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how is it possible to consider any of his work propaganda ? by saying that, does this make you someone whom is pro-bush, not to mention for the war in Iraq ?

I would have to disagree with anyone whom says that anything Michael Moore is exagerative. read any of his books [the book "dude,wheres my country" in particular] is filled with legitmate resources from where he has done extensive research.

And Genocyde, how do you know if he purposely left that little piece of information out? maybe he failed to mention that because it isnt relevent.

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Michael Moore's, i think he is funny, dont take everything he says so personaily

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Im definetly not pro Bush. But that Moore's latest movie is propaganda is pretty obvious (you know, it's published just before the elections and directly aimed at Bush). And there are a lot of strange stories going around about Bowling for Columbine, twisted facts and the such. I will probably never know for sure if that is true or not, so I think it's wise to be careful with what Moore says :)
He certainly knows his business, but I believe that his aims don't justify the methods he uses.


Maybe loz27 is right with what he said. There are a lot of hints in his movies that you shouldn't take him too seriously.

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I liked Bowling for Columbine, but like everyone else he distorts the truth, and twists information to suit his needs. He's just like everyone else, no matter what political stance he has.

I'm going to see his new documentary, it looks quite interesting.

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That information about Bush being on vacation in the whitehouse that he left out is relevant, because he was trying to make the point that Bush was slacking off, when really he wasn't.

I will have to agree that Michael Moore is a lying son of a female dog just by reading his books or watching his documentaries. Look up on the internet. LOTS of facts to rebutt his claims, or to make them less exagerated. And what is wrong with being pro-Bush, or pro-War in Iraq? Maybe to you, but in my opinion I like Bush and I agree with the war.

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Michael Moore is a genius.

He knows what most people don't, that Americans are willing to give up their opinions for media. He is a great propaganda artist, and I would go as far as saying that he is a great politician.

His ideas are simply opinions which is bullshit. I would say that he is out for the money, or an ignorant asshat.

Pick one or the other, they are practically the same.

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Exactly, well said mEk. Michael Moore asks the questions that are never answered by the feds, the questions people want to ask no matter how conspiracy-ish they are. If he were a politician, I would vote for him (provided I was of voting age). Sure he says propoganda, but so does Bush and all television networks both liberal and conservative.

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Agreed!....wholeheartly.

He is a mastermind on timing and gaining wealth. Having wealth and being an asshat though I disagree as being the same. He is an ignorant asshat though.

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All im gonna say is, Michael Moore is a loser.

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micheal moore is stupid fat fuck who never got enough attention from his parents when he was a child

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Yeah and personally I hope that fatass dies of a heart attack in the next year or so. Sorry, but I would be lying if I told you I didn't wish he was dead.

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He'd have a heart attack right after Bush died while choking on a pretzel. :lol:

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He'll have a heart attack while shoving food down his slobby throat. I mean the guy is a pig. And he needs to do something about that pubic hair growing on his face.