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Re: Michael Moore

Maybe you confuse this forum with the melee?

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lolz i dun like mikal more he is a fatso n my dad sais he is a liar. n i think he shuld drown on a pancake syrup lolz!

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i wish the many of you would get off the physical insults of michael moore already.its gotten to be lame quite quickly.maybe you're only insulting how he looks because you're afraid to back up any other intelligent debatable insult to hurl out here - like what kind of attention his works have achieved, and if he is sucessful in creating awareness of somekind - regardless if what he says is true or not, it should be enough to make you think for yourself and break out into some kind of intelligent debate of his opinions and how he presents it in the form of his work as he has instead of quickly insulting him and doing the lazy thing to just ignore it and blindly follow the heard.

that is what should matter. to open your eyes and your mind and to think about what it is that is happening in north america and abroad under the bush administration and not be naive to just accept things as they are.sure you can dislike micheal moore all you want, all i am saying is that you should atleast take one moment to expose yourself to what he has to say and think about what he's saying before making any closed-minded,ignorant,lazy opinions against him.

and who gives a shit what he looks like.apparently the majority of you 18 year olds and under do.have any of you done anything with your lives that are worthy of media attention and certain artistic status/artistic freedom as what Micheal Moore has achieved? i didnt think so.

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Originally Posted by XLove & MutilationX

Well said.

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Indeed, well said XLove & MutilationX.

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Hooah. I think it's obvious that Michael Moore is more an entertainer than a documentarian. Doesn't mean he isn't funny.

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thanks Octovon,Mr.Fancypants, for your comments to my post.

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Originally Posted by pancakeeater

lolz i dun like mikal more he is a fatso n my dad sais he is a liar. n i think he shuld drown on a pancake syrup lolz!

But you aren't allowed to have an opinion. So go away.

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Originally Posted by loz27

chaka I :love: you

And they called it puppy love...

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Originally Posted by Gén0CýDé

He'll have a heart attack while shoving food down his slobby throat. I mean the guy is a pig. And he needs to do something about that pubic hair growing on his face.

More "pubic" hair than you've got! :p:lol:

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aww.how sweet indeed.

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Michael Moore is a dick, plain and simple. No need to figure his statistics, no need to watch his films, or deal with any schematics. He is just an outright dick.

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Originally Posted by WiseBobo

Michael Moore is a dick, plain and simple. No need to figure his statistics, no need to watch his films, or deal with any schematics. He is just an outright dick.

Well said...:)

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and yet still no explanation as to why you feel that way. so sad.

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i like his movies and hes a alright guy.... BUT he does tend to bend the truth to meet his agenda.... Example in bowling for columbine he placed a vidieo showing charelston heston (leader of the NRA i belive) holding a shotgun above his hands and yelling "From My Cold Dead Hands" That He said took place in colorodo weeks after the murders in columbine but in reality it took place 1 year after and not to mention in South carolina :\ so when its all said and done he bends the truth but makes valid points

and ill wait till farenhight 9/11 comes out on video... i have no money for a theater :(

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I would like to seee farenhight 9/11

regardless of the "facts" they are good films quite funny in places

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Originally Posted by XLove & MutilationX

and yet still no explanation as to why you feel that way. so sad.

Have you not been reading the thread?

He contorts facts and statistics to suit his own needs, never mind the credibility of them. Genocyde already pointed out to you how Moore used his fact of 'Bush being on vacation', yet he somehow managed to miss the part of Dubyah still doing the job at his various vacation spots. This is exactly why I hate Michael Moore; it is not that he has a different opinion from mine, it's not that he is trying to make a statement, it is simply because he stoops to far too low a level for my own taste or liking, especially when it comes to viewing his 'documentaries' where he does not give anyone the full side of the story.

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And before you think of going to watch Michael Moore's latest 'documentary', be sure to read the link I posted on page two.

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Originally Posted by WiseBobo

If you're going to talk about anyone contorting facts and statistics to suit one's needs, then you'd better include Bush. He stoops as low as the Bush administration, for God's sake, Cheney told a senator to "f *ck yourself". You can't just apply those to Moore, they fit quite well with Bush.

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Michael Moore is just an idiot with his anti-Bush crapola. The guy should should go get a life.

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Michael Moore is the best thing to happen to America since 9/11 (i'm, not referring to 9/11 as a good thing, merely a 'time').

He is a smarter man than 'Bush the fool' could ever hope to be. Michael Moore for President!!1

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If Michael Moore ever became president, I can tell you many Americans would move to Europe. Conservative Americans. Bush supporting Americans. And since many of Europe seem to be anti-Bush, I doubt you would want that. Michael Moore causes that kind of hatred among conservative republicans. I for one would move to Australia if he became president.

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Originally Posted by Žâb707

Yes indeed I can apply those to Michael Moore, as he is using his bullshit to film 'Documentaries' WHILE INFACT, they are anything but!

I congratulate Cheney telling a senator off; infact, I think it should happen more often. People are far too 'poltically correct' these days.

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Yes they are. I think it would feel good to give a good "fuck you" to some fellow politicians every once in a while.

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Wait, if a Democrat did it, you'd be all over him. http://gamingforums.com/images/smili...rcastic%29.gif

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no i have not been reading or following along with this thread. I just randomly spoke of Micheal Moore, and somehow it managed to fit in with the rest of this business about him and his efforts. quite the coincedence, dont you think ?

but yes, i do understand your point you're making about him and why you do not like him. i like the diversity of either people liking him, or absolutely despising him. regardless, i do feel that there should be more like him - if anything, he is exercising his freedoms of artistic expression, and regardless of whether you agree with him or not, there is a fair bit of credit that is due to him for the efforts he has made.you cannot easily sit back and deny or ignore the fact that he hasnt sucessfully stirred a sence of controversy for people to take a better look at what it is that is going on,
even if it provokes people to just think about the "ifs" and any kind of theories of their own, i think he has achieved something great.

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Originally Posted by Žâb707

Wait, if a Democrat did it, you'd be all over him. http://gamingforums.com/images/smili...rcastic%29.gif

Kerry flipped off a bunch of Vietnam vets, but no one said shit because it isn't a big deal. Just like the press thinks Cheney is more funny then politically incorect. They are making a huge joke about this whole fuck off thing.

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Wait, when did Kerry flip out at any Vietnam vets??? Credible news source please...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/910614.stm Here's Bush calling a distinguished newsman an asshole...in 2000 during the campaign. :lol:

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I do not feel like searching it up right now, but it was a few months ago. This is common knowledge. They were saying shit about how he was a traitor, so he gave them the middle finger. It was on the news. There is video graphed evidence. But if you insist I will find the link to this later on.

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If you make statements back them up. Don't just pull things out of your ass. Find it. I want a fact, not just "common knowledge".

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It is a fact. It was a couple months ago. And like this Cheney thing, no one made a big deal out of it.

Edit- http://www.rense.com/general53/kerr.htm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...1/225546.shtml

http://docb-t5.blogspot.com/2004/06/...etupdated.html
http://www.dgci.net/archives/000932.html
http://www.taxidermy.net/forums/Indu...44591ED5C.html

Just some random sites that popped up when I did a search. I will find a better article tommorow, because I have to eat soon.

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Then back it up. You can't say something is a fact without sources.

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Well I edited my above post with links.

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If I was a Vietnam vet (like Kerry) and someone said this to me: "Senator, I am Ted Sampley, the head of Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry, and I am here to escort you away from the Wall because you do not belong here." I would fucking break hes jaw.

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Originally Posted by Žâb707

Wait, when did Kerry flip out at any Vietnam vets??? Credible news source please...

Repent now, or never:

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Originally Posted by WiseBobo

"We resent very deeply the false war crimes charges he made coming back from Vietnam in 1971 and repeated in the book "Tour of Duty." We think those cast an aspersion on all those living and dead, from our unit and other units in Vietnam. We think that he knew he was lying when he made the charges, and we think that they're unsupportable. We intend to bring the truth about that to the American people.

"We believe, based on our experience with him, that he is totally unfit to be the Commander-in-Chief." -- John O'Neill, spokesman, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

"I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the United States. This is not a political issue. It is a matter of his judgment, truthfulness, reliability, loyalty and trust -- all absolute tenets of command. His biography, 'Tour of Duty,' by Douglas Brinkley, is replete with gross exaggerations, distortions of fact, contradictions and slanderous lies. His contempt for the military and authority is evident by even a most casual review of this biography. He arrived in-country with a strong anti-Vietnam War bias and a self-serving determination to build a foundation for his political future. He was aggressive, but vain and prone to impulsive judgment, often with disregard for specific tactical assignments. He was a 'loose cannon.' In an abbreviated tour of four months and 12 days, and with his specious medals secure, Lt.(jg) Kerry bugged out and began his infamous betrayal of all United States forces in the Vietnam War. That included our soldiers, our marines, our sailors, our coast guardsmen, our airmen, and our POWs. His leadership within the so-called Vietnam Veterans Against the War and testimony before Congress in 1971 charging us with unspeakable atrocities remain an undocumented but nevertheless meticulous stain on the men and women who honorably stayed the course. Senator Kerry is not fit for command." -- Rear Admiral Roy Hoffman, USN (retired), chairman, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth

"During Lt.(jg) Kerry's tour, he was under my command for two or three specific operations, before his rapid exit. Trust, loyalty and judgment are the key, operative words. His turncoat performance in 1971 in his grubby shirt and his medal-tossing escapade, coupled with his slanderous lines in the recent book portraying us that served, including all POWs and MIAs, as murderous war criminals, I believe, will have a lasting effect on all military veterans and their families.

"Kerry would be described as devious, self-absorbing, manipulative, disdain for authority, disruptive, but the most common phrase that you'd hear is 'requires constant supervision.'" -- Captain Charles Plumly, USN (retired)

"Thirty-five years ago, many of us fell silent when we came back to the stain of sewage that Mr. Kerry had thrown on us, and all of our colleagues who served over there. I don't intend to be silent today or ever again. Our young men and women who are serving deserve no less." -- Andrew Horne

"In my specific, personal experience in both coastal and river patrols over a 12-month period, I never once saw or heard anything remotely resembling the atrocities described by Senator Kerry. If I had, it would have been my obligation to report them in writing to a higher authority, and I would certainly have done that. If Senator Kerry actually witnessed or participated in these atrocities or, as he described them, 'war crimes,' he was obligated to report them. That he did not until later when it suited his political purposes strikes me as opportunism of the worst kind. That he would malign my service and that of his fellow sailors with no regard for the truth makes him totally unqualified to serve as Commander-in-Chief." -- Jeffrey Wainscott

"I signed that letter because I, too felt a deep sense of betrayal that someone who took the same oath of loyalty as I did as an officer in the United States Navy would abandon his group here (points to group photo) to join this group here (points to VVAW protest photo), and come home and attempt to rally the American public against the effort that this group was so valiantly pursuing.

"It is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle. We lost the war at home... and at home, John Kerry was the Field General." -- Robert Elder

"My daughters and my wife have read portions of the book 'Tour of Duty.' They wanted to know if I took part in the atrocities described. I do not believe the things that are described happened.

"Let me give you an example. In Brinkley's book, on pages 170 to 171, about something called the 'Bo De massacre' on November 24th of 1968... In Kerry's description of the engagement, first he claimed there were 17 servicemen that were wounded. Three of us were wounded. I was the first..." -- Joseph Ponder

"While in Cam Rahn Bay, he trained on several 24-hour indoctrination missions, and one special skimmer operation with my most senior and trusted Lieutenant. The briefing from some members of that crew the morning after revealed that they had not received any enemy fire, and yet Lt.(jg) Kerry informed me of a wound -- he showed me a scratch on his arm and a piece of shrapnel in his hand that appeared to be from one of our own M-79s. It was later reported to me that Lt.(jg) Kerry had fired an M-79, and it had exploded off the adjacent shoreline. I do not recall being advised of any medical treatment, and probably said something like 'Forget it.' He later received a Purple Heart for that scratch, and I have no information as to how or whom.

"Lt.(jg) Kerry was allowed to return to the good old USA after 4 months and a few days in-country, and then he proceeded to betray his former shipmates, calling them criminals who were committing atrocities. Today we are here to tell you that just the opposite is true. Our rules of engagement were quite strict, and the officers and men of Swift often did not even return fire when they were under fire if there was a possibility that innocent people -- fishermen, in a lot of cases -- might be hurt or injured. The rules and the good intentions of the men increased the possibility that we might take friendly casualties." -- Commander Grant Hibbard, USN (retired)

"Lt. Kerry returned home from the war to make some outrageous statements and allegations... of numerous criminal acts in violation of the law of war were cited by Kerry, disparaging those who had fought with honor in that conflict. Had war crimes been committed by US forces in Vietnam? Yes, but such acts were few and far between. Yet Lt. Kerry have numerous speeches and testimony before Congress inappropriately leading his audiences to believe that what was only an anomaly in the conduct of America's fighting men was an epidemic. Furthermore, he suggested that they were being encouraged to violated the law of war by those within the chain of command.

"Very specific orders, on file at the Vietnam archives at Texas Tech University, were issued by my father [Admiral Elmo Zumwalt] and others in his chain of command instructing subordinates to act responsibly in preserving the life and property of Vietnamese civilians." -- Lt. Col. James Zumwalt, USMC (retired)

"We look at Vietnam... after all these years it is still languishing in isolated poverty and helplessness and tyranny. This is John Kerry's legacy. I deeply resent John Kerry's using his Swift boat experience, and his betrayal of those who fought there as a stepping-stone to his political ambitions." -- Barnard Wolff

"In a whole year that I spent patrolling, I didn't see anything like a war crime, an atrocity, anything like that. Time and again I saw American fighting men put themselves in graver danger trying to avoid... collateral damage.

"When John Kerry returned to the country, he was sworn in front of Congress. And then he told my family -- my parents, my sister, my brother, my neighbors -- he told everyone I knew and everyone I'd ever know that I and my comrades had committed unspeakable atrocities." -- David Wallace

"I served with these guys. I went on missions with them, and these men served honorably. Up and down the chain of command there was no acquiescence to atrocities. It was not condoned, it did not happen, and it was not reported to me verbally or in writing by any of these men including Lt.(jg) Kerry.

"In 1971, '72, for almost 18 months, he stood before the television audiences and claimed that the 500,000 men and women in Vietnam, and in combat, were all villains -- there were no heroes. In 2004, one hero from the Vietnam War has appeared, running for President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief. It just galls one to think about it." -- Captain George Elliott, USN (retired)

"During the Vietnam War I was Task Force Commander at An Thoi, and my tour of duty was 13 months, from the end of Tet to the beginning of the Vietnamization of the Navy units.

"Now when I went there right after Tet, I was restricted in my movements. I couldn't go much of anyplace because the Vietcong controlled most of the area. When I left, I could go anywhere I wanted, just about. Commerce was booming, the buses were running, trucks were going, the waterways were filled with sampans with goods going to market, but yet in Kerry's biography he says that our operations were a complete failure. He also mentions a formal conference with me, to try to get more air cover and so on. That conference never happened..." -- Captain Adrian Lonsdale, USCG (retired)

"I was in An Thoi from June of '68 to June of '69, covering the whole period that John Kerry was there. I operated in every river, in every canal, and every off-shore patrol area in the 4th Corps area, from Cambodia all the way around to the Bo De River. I never saw, even heard of all of these so-called atrocities and things that we were supposed to have done.

"This is not true. We're not standing for it. We want to set the record straight." -- William Shumadine

"In 1971, when John Kerry spoke out to America, labeling all Vietnam veterans as thugs and murderers, I was shocked and almost brought to my knees, because even though I had served at the same time and same unit, I had never witnessed or participated in any of the events that the Senator had accused us of. I strongly believe that the statements made by the Senator were not only false and inaccurate, but extremely harmful to the United States' efforts in Southeast Asia and the rest of the world. Tragically, some veterans, scorned by the antiwar movement and their allies, retreated to a life of despair and suicide. Two of my crewmates were among them. For that there is no forgiveness. " -- Richard O'Meara

"My name is Steve Gardner. I served in 1966 and 1967 on my first tour of duty in Vietnam on Swift boats, and I did my second tour in '68 and '69, involved with John Kerry in the last 2 1/2 months of my tour. The John Kerry that I know is not the John Kerry that everybody else is portraying. I served alongside him and behind him, five feet away from him in a gun tub, and watched as he made indecisive moves with our boat, put our boats in jeopardy, put our crews in jeopardy... if a man like that can't handle that 6-man crew boat, how can you expect him to be our Commander-in-Chief?" -- Steven Gardner

"I served in Vietnam as a boat officer from June of 1968 to July of 1969. My service was three months in Coastal Division 13 out of Cat Lo, and nine months with Coastal Division 11 based in An Thoi. John Kerry was in An Thoi the same time I was. I'm here today to express the anger I have harbored for over 33 years, about being accused with my fellow shipmates of war atrocities.

"All I can say is when I leave here today, I'm going down to the Wall to tell my two crew members it's not true, and that they and the other 49 Swiftees who are on the Wall were then and are still now the best." -- Robert Brant

"I never saw, heard of, or participated in any Swift boat crews killing cattle, poisoning crops, or raping and killing civilians as charged by John Kerry, both in his book and in public statements. Since we both operated at the same time, in the same general area, and on the same missions under the same commanders, it is hard to believe his claims of atrocities and poor planning of Sea Lord missions.

"I signed this letter because I feel that he used Swift boat sailors to proclaim his antiwar statements after the war, and now he uses the same Swift boat sailors to support his claims of being a war hero. He cannot have it both ways, and we are here to ask for full disclosure of the proof of his claims." -- James Steffes

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Would this guy be considered "Liberal"? I have been debating whether (sp?) or not to see his movie, if it is directed by a Liberal person, then I do not want to give him my money.

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Yes. Liberal and ugly and fat and stupid and...and.

Watch my trailer I posted on pg. 2 or 3 and all will be answered except why he's wasting his life instead of working out.

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Michael Moore's incendiary George Bush-bashing film Fahrenheit 9/11 became the first documentary ever to top the US box office at the weekend, taking an astonishing £16 million in just three days.

The film was not even shown at the usual number of cinemas but managed to trounce the opposition, White Chicks, a cross-dressing cops-and-tiger comedy romp Two Brothers.

It took just one weekend for Moore's new film to eclipse his Oscar-winning Bowling for Columbine as the highest-grossing documentary of all time.

It is hard to believe that Hollywood famously booed Moore when he dared to criticise the president at the Oscars just five days after America invaded Iraq. How times change.

Now Leonardo DiCaprio, Madonna and Steven Spielberg all seem to be enthusiastic admirers of Moore.

Out. With. Bush.

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I used to really hate Michael Moore, but now, I sorta see his point. He is displeased with the American government and has a right to do protest. I just saw him on 60 minutes, and I have to say, he is pretty funny. While I may not agree with him, I have to say, he does get his point across.

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Originally Posted by NexusS2X

Yes. Liberal and ugly and fat and stupid and...and.

Watch my trailer I posted on pg. 2 or 3 and all will be answered except why he's wasting his life instead of working out.

Well that's a well thought out arguement right there....

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Originally Posted by AzH

Scratch " documentary " and insert "film" like you did (throughout your post) Azh, and you’ve got it.

I would include comedy film myself though, as Michael Moore is laughing all the way to the bank….

Documentary:

Presenting facts objectively (he doesn’t) without editorializing or inserting fictional matter, (that's Michael Moore's repertoire) as in a book or film.

Being, consisting of, or contained in documents documentary evidence.
Pertaining to written evidence; contained or certified in writing relating to or consisting of, or derived from documents] n: a film or TV program presenting the facts about a person or event.

If he could really show 51% fact, then I'd watch the rest of his bullshit.
White chicks.... WHAT?... did it even gross something?

Now Leonardo DiCaprio, Madonna and Steven Spielberg all seem to be enthusiastic admirers of Moore. Is this because they saw "White Chicks?"

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Originally Posted by Trojan_Ripper

well said!
more like mockumentary :lol:

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Originally Posted by Großadmiral Dönitz

What wrong with Michael Moore?
Sayinf that he is a tard because is movies suck is not really a good argument unless you explain why they suck), it is like me saying "Bush sucks because his policy sucks".

Hes overweight, his diet is wrong, he is complacent about this, he is ugly he possibly suffers from bad breath & smell problems?

Bush sucks because hes thirsty or into hot transvestites; like Eddy Murphy.

I'm tired posted out & being puerile seems like a great idea. Right now.

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i saw bowling.. , it was good

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i saw bowling.. , it was good

I agree, he is good at lies.

here is some links for the moore people :lol:
http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/

http://www.chicagoredstreak.com/fron...midfahr28.html

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Another prime example of Moore in action. This is very common throughout his 9/11 movie. He will interview people, but he will cut off parts of the interview to make it sound like they are agreeing with him. Some people are suing him over this. Well one guy that I saw last night. What an idiot.

Face it, the guy is a fraud. You even got democrats saying this. How much more pathetic can you get when people in your own party are calling you a fraud? I think, well at least hope, America will come to realize this guy is a complete moron.

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Face it, the guy is a fraud. You even got democrats saying this. How much more pathetic can you get when people in your own party are calling you a fraud? I think, well at least hope, America will come to realize this guy is a complete moron.

Weak minds will believe anything thrown at them.
tis a shame

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He says he's against capitalism, so I guess he's not getting any money for this.
He says he was born in blue collar Flint, MI. Lots of minorities around. He was born in an affluent suburb with a minority population of 0.5%
It's in a great new book "Michael Moore is a big fat stupid white man."
When I turn on the TV, left wing opinions. When I read a newspaper, left wing opinion. When I have to listen to all the whiney actors, actresses and music folks, more left wing hype. You have to search for any kind of info that's conservative. Yet, somehow, people say I'm brainwashed because I'm Republican. How can that be if every outlet is liberal?
We have to give those captured in the war a trial. We even have to pay for lawyers for them. How are innocent civilians captured by the enemy afforded rights? By brutally hacking their heads off and videotaping it. Oh wait, I can't say anything about that because some terrorist/murderer was tortured in prison. That's much more important.