Home schooling for and against, (continuation of discussion in "Dating" thread.)

[Napalm]

Every School I have been to, neither creationism nor evolution were taught as what was right. They were both mentioned, but you ahve to admit, Darwin is right about the Finches and all of that.

BTW: Should we create a thread about creationism?

[D.Sporky!]

Ok, I haven't been to all schools and should probably just shudup.


maybe, it would probably be closed right away. but yeah, I'd love one. However, don't start one yet, I'll be away this weekend.

[pInK_eLePhAnT]

Originally Posted by DarthSporky

You only learn there's no evidence in schools, so I don't blame you. You shoulda been here for the religion thread. it was fun. Evolution is actually the one with no real evidence, and the "evidence" it has is all flawed.


One of my favorite creationists sites is www.irc.org see for yourself.


And that's another thing I'm talking about, in school you're told "there is no evidence of creation" and "evolution should be accepted as a simple fact." That's wrong.

at my school, we haven't really talked about either. if we get in a debate and it starts going towards the creationism vs. evolution the teacher usually stops us. my bio teacher always says "god or evolution ..." no teacher has ever said that there's no evidence of creationism to me.

[Octovon]

Originally Posted by pInK_eLePhAnT

at my school, we haven't really talked about either. if we get in a debate and it starts going towards the creationism vs. evolution the teacher usually stops us. my bio teacher always says "god or evolution ..." no teacher has ever said that there's no evidence of creationism to me.

I go to a Catholic High School and almost every teacher, especially the religion teachers told us that we were all created by God, and the evolution theory is misguided and that the Bible is the basis for evolution. A lot of the teachers have said this. I'm an atheist, there is no 'God' and we all evolved from tiny ocean-dwelling single-cell organisms. Besides, we're all just people in a sea of other people on one planet in a universe of other planets and galaxies. Anyways, today in history class I learned how the places known as 'hell' and 'purgatory' were all made up and never mentioned at all by Jesus or in the Old Testaments. 'Hell' was created by Paul a century after Jesus' death and 'Purgatory' was invented by the Papacy for people to buy indulgences so they did not go to hell.

[D.Sporky!]

Originally Posted by pInK_eLePhAnT

at my school, we haven't really talked about either. if we get in a debate and it starts going towards the creationism vs. evolution the teacher usually stops us. my bio teacher always says "god or evolution ..." no teacher has ever said that there's no evidence of creationism to me.

mmk, i see. Every school is different I guess..



Actually hell is mentioned in the Bible before Paul. Jesus mentions it in some of his parables, and it says "and he decended into hell" somewhere in the gosples (not quite sure where). But I didn't know where Purgatory came from as it's never mentioned in the Bible.

[Nemmerle]

Originally Posted by andyfromkacofony

As for Sex-ed, it is fine where it is. It stops accidental buggery for a start

BUGGERY: Dictionary Entry and Meaning

Pronunciation: 'buguree

Definition: [n] anal intercourse committed by a man with a man or woman

You are unlikely to do it, if you dont know about it in the first place.

Originally Posted by andyfromkacofony

RS is a valuable lesson. As an atheist, it allows you to explore other peoples views and thus appreciate them. If you think its BS then you've had a poor education as far as that goes.

I think you misunderstood, I was saying that the statement that home educated children didnt get exposed to an assortment of ideas was bullshit.

Originally Posted by andyfromkacofony

The vast majoraity of people learn to drive. Not many of them go on from school to college and then to Uni just to learn how to navigate the M69 at night in a traffic jam.

They still have to pass a test and you have to pass a test to drive. It should be noted that teachers arent necessarily qualified in what they teach just in teaching in general.

Originally Posted by andyfromkacofony

Erm, nope. They are not 'chained' to the NC, it just dictates what is to be taught, not how to. It also allows room for embellishment. We get alot of A-Level stuff thrown in with ou work and the vast majoraity of teachers exceed what they are told they must teach.

Originally Posted by andyfromkacofony

it just dictates what is to be taught

Hmm?

Originally Posted by andyfromkacofony

As for the drugs issue, I have friends who do weed, I have been with them whilst they have being doing, and I have no desire to do so myself. The person knows its wrong, but is only doing it 'to see what its like'. If he doesnt stop soon, he knows we will make him stop.

How would you "make" him stop? You cant completely control another persons life 24,7.
Did they go ahead with citizenship lessons in the end? I had heard about them a while ago.

[pInK_eLePhAnT]

you mean like civics and career studies? what a waste of time.

[Nemmerle]

This stuff

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/342353.stm

I dont know if they actually went ahead and did it, or if it got torpedoed just before it could get off the deck.

[Da-Ko]

Stay on topic people. Anyway here is a list of the Pros and Cons in my homeschooling. These are cold hard facts. You can cross-examin them all you want it wont change the facts.

Pros

I get out of school 1-2 years early.
I probly have a better education.
I don't get bullied.
I don't get exposed as much to drugs, violance, etc...

Cons

I work through the summer.
I have less friends and am less social.
I have 2 Christian parents that are over protective.
Im lonly.

[WiseBobo]

Of course evolution is all hog wash.

That is exactly why you can look back in time using the Hubble, and you can see the big bang.